Timing a possessed Cougar.

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Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #75 – November 24, 2012, 12:28:36 AM

Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;403066

Replace the link, at least temporarily, with an inline fuse @ about 10 amps. Then, use the diagram to disconnect everything powered by the fuse link. Power up and see if the fuse you installed blows. If yes, you have a wiring problem. If no, you have a component problem. Make sure you have a good supply of those 10 amp fuses, you'll probably blow a bunch of them. Report back with the result.

no, use your power seat circuit breaker fuse,, it will reset itself when it cools down. wont go through so many fuses.

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Reply #76 – November 24, 2012, 12:54:22 AM

you are first going to have to do a visual inspection now that your able to repeat the problem.
power down and then remove the wire loom cover off the entire harness as it travels up and around the strut tower and into the car.

its very possible you have a conductor that melted to another conductor within the wire loom.
next up is to visually inspect the large connector that goes into your ignition switch assembly (not the key switch but the ign sw itself).

you may have a faulty ignition swtich causing the short.
there is a beebee and an spring inside the ign switch with a chunk of sliding copper , three pieces which can come apart and cause issues.

after your visual inspection do this following in this order please.
-Key off, key out
-might as well pull out your radio also,, reduces the variables for now
-all wires disconnected from the starter relay
-pull all fuses out of your fuse box
-re-install another fuse link or use fuses so you can see if something blew open like advised.
-attach the fuse link lug that keeps blowing back up to your starter relay
====does it blow? if yes that circuit is touching ground somewhere, follow that circuit up to the shorted area. if no goto next step
-turn key on forward or back
====does fues blow? if yes swap in a new ign switch. If fuse does not blow, go to next step
====add one fuse at a time and turn on ign sw, eventually your fuse link fuse should blow by adding fuses and this will help isolate the assciated problem circuit.

report back

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Reply #77 – November 24, 2012, 05:26:37 AM

If you put a 30A circuit breaker in there, you might as well just follow the smoke.

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Reply #78 – November 24, 2012, 09:21:49 AM

I would probably go with the 30 amp./smoke deal if I wasn't worried about my EEC, ect.. I think I better take out my ignition switch and look at it, do I need special tools? I will hook up the fuse link with 10 amp. fuses and follow the instructions. One problem that I am occasionally running into is that the color scheme on my schematics doesn't match what I see.

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Reply #79 – November 24, 2012, 10:48:13 AM

most ign swtiches that have not been touched do require a special tool.
it would be a hollow torx bit,, considered a security bit.

vise grip needle nose pliers help to get it out but once you do, modify the mounting bolts to be a flat head or phillups using a hacksaw.
or install hex head screws in its place.

are you also looking at the 86 evtm Trinom has? , can be found if you click on it in my signature as well.

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Reply #80 – November 24, 2012, 01:11:21 PM

Yes, I have the schematic from Trinom. I will have to check into the hollow torx bit and see what I can find. So I guess my first mission is to get my volt/amp. meter and do a visual on the harness. Am I looking for some thing that looks burnt or melted?

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Reply #81 – November 24, 2012, 05:46:39 PM

At this point, might consider getting a visually good engine and dash harness from a similar equipped same-year ONLY car and swapping it in.

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Reply #82 – November 24, 2012, 06:24:24 PM

I would suggest at this point to remove the radiator cap and install it on a different car. This is out of control and just about the most ridiculous post i have ever answered. This car is being latterly trashed and cut to pieces with no end in sight. This is not that complicated and for the life of me i cant understand half the things you have dun to this POOR CAR!!!

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Reply #83 – November 24, 2012, 06:26:11 PM

TBS302,
I will probably consider something along those line when I buy my new engine and transmission. I need to paint my car as well, which I want to do when the engine is out. I was talking to one of my friends today and he told me that he thinks I have my amp. meter hooked up wrong. If he's right, it should be an easy fix and I should be good to go (??), we'll see.

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Reply #84 – November 24, 2012, 06:55:51 PM

you need to start taking pictures, and show us whats going on....and what you are doing...and the meter your using

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Reply #85 – November 24, 2012, 07:14:37 PM

HOW CAN an ammeter be hooked up wrong!!!!! With this car i am willing to suspect anything is possible. Is the radiator cap good!!!! I am loosing my mind. After posting what 200 comments and this car does not even run and you are PAINTING IT??? Now you are pulling the engine!!! I am out of patience and answers at this point. No one can possibly be sereyous about helping you at this point. You just dont have the ability to fix this car and or you are MESSING WITH US. Personally i think at this point you are messing with us. No other explanation. That can be the only answer as so far you have not posted one PHOTO and that is very suspicious in my view. Roll that car down a steep hill in to the sunset HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU!!!!

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Reply #86 – November 24, 2012, 07:49:20 PM

I have my amp. meter hooked up with positive on one side and negative on the other. What he said is, it should be hooked up between the battery and the positive post on my starter relay. Tom, if I knew how to post pictures I would.

Hope this works.

Reply #87 – November 24, 2012, 10:01:01 PM

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Reply #88 – November 24, 2012, 10:02:46 PM

Obviously, it's the bottom one. I'm still trying to figure it out. By the way, it's an old picture. These are pictures I already have on my computer.

Some more. At least I hope there not the same ones!

Reply #89 – November 24, 2012, 10:10:36 PM

All old engine pictures.