Timing a possessed Cougar.

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Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #90 – November 24, 2012, 10:11:31 PM

Tom, take two valum and go to bed.

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Reply #91 – November 24, 2012, 11:05:07 PM

Your car is blowing fuseable links ecause you have a short. The ignition switch is a very likely problem, and one I have had do similar things.

Both of my 86's had a flat bolt with no head on it. I ended up chiseling or drilling them out. Don't remember which.

You can also pull the plastic half off, clean it up good, and see if anything is melted or burned. If it checks out okay, put it back together.

Temporarly splice in a new fuseable link or wire, do not try to start the car. Instead, you need to do a resistance check between your NEGETIVE battery cable, and your individual fuses. If you find one that is a very low resistance, that group will have your short in it.then you can start trouble shooting individual wires, trace each wire back, or replace it.

Electrical is 90% mental and having the right tools. Its really not bad once you break it down.

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Reply #92 – November 24, 2012, 11:26:47 PM

Haystack,
So, maybe I should just go straight for the ignition switch? A Dremel might work getting the bolts out.

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Reply #93 – November 25, 2012, 07:02:03 AM

Temporarly splice in a new fuseable link or wire, do not try to start the car. Instead, you need to do a resistance check between your NEGETIVE battery cable, and your individual fuses. If you find one that is a very low resistance, that group will have your short in it.then you can start trouble shooting individual wires, trace each wire back, or replace it.

I hate to tell you this stacks but i think instructing this guy to use an OHM meter is doing him an injustice. Throw the DAM OHM METER IN THE BACK OF THE TOOL BOX AND FORGET ABOUT THAT. All you need to do is use a regular test light or a signal flasher to test these circuits. Foe had a good idea with the head light but i never did that. People need to learn how to use a test light for conditions like this. In the 48 years in this business i have not once used an OHM METER FOR ANYTHING. Other than to check a set of plug wires. But then even not for that as the cylinder scope does it QUITE NICELY. Forger the DAM OHM METER it is not used for this type of issue never has never will. He will get all kinds of resistance that he will never be able to understand. And any loaded circuits till give him readings. This guy is confuses as it is and instructing him in this manner just makes it worse. JAY explain it to them Please before i hook myself to the coil wire of my Turbo Coupe and ask my daughter to start it. I need some shock treatments to clear my head. ANY OTHER TAKERS!!!!

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Reply #94 – November 25, 2012, 07:57:11 AM

Ok, 1 more time. Using a test light.
Passenger kick panel, near the PCM, locate and remove the EEC power relay. Connect your problem fuse link. Cycle the key on. The car won't start this way, but that's ok.

This is all the instruction I'll give you until you come back and tell me that this is done. At that point you'll be ready to do the test. I'll explain why I had you do that, and what to do next.

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Reply #95 – November 25, 2012, 09:56:17 AM

Quote from: 86cougar;403181

Tom, take two valum and go to bed.

86 Take 2 valium and buy a car that actuall runs, THEN DONT TOUCH IT> Best bet for you at this point. Clearly you are messing with us or you do not know what you are doing. SORRY!!!

Actually those photos answer a few questions, Anyone that owns a SLANT SIX has serious ISSUES!!! And to install a good battery in it is a clear sign of Insanity!!!

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Reply #96 – November 25, 2012, 10:04:15 AM

Quote from: 86cougar;403168

I have my amp. meter hooked up with positive on one side and negative on the other. What he said is, it should be hooked up between the battery and the positive post on my starter relay. Tom, if I knew how to post pictures I would.

What the Hell are you talking about. You have the positive on one side and the negative on the other. That is the silliest thing i have ever heard in my life. It does not tell us a thing. ONE SIDE OF WHAT AND OTHER SIDE WHERE????????????????????? Someone pinch me as i must be in a COMA?????

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Reply #97 – November 25, 2012, 10:29:44 AM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;403200

Temporarly splice in a new fuseable link or wire, do not try to start the car. Instead, you need to do a resistance check between your NEGETIVE battery cable, and your individual fuses. If you find one that is a very low resistance, that group will have your short in it.then you can start trouble shooting individual wires, trace each wire back, or replace it.

I hate to tell you this stacks but i think instructing this guy to use an OHM meter is doing him an injustice. Throw the DAM OHM METER IN THE BACK OF THE TOOL BOX AND FORGET ABOUT THAT. All you need to do is use a regular test light or a signal flasher to test these circuits. Foe had a good idea with the head light but i never did that. People need to learn how to use a test light for conditions like this. In the 48 years in this business i have not once used an OHM METER FOR ANYTHING. Other than to check a set of plug wires. But then even not for that as the cylinder scope does it QUITE NICELY. Forger the DAM OHM METER it is not used for this type of issue never has never will. He will get all kinds of resistance that he will never be able to understand. And any loaded circuits till give him readings. This guy is confuses as it is and instructing him in this manner just makes it worse. JAY explain it to them Please before i hook myself to the coil wire of my Turbo Coupe and ask my daughter to start it. I need some shock treatments to clear my head. ANY OTHER TAKERS!!!!

I use my ohm meter all the time, just for fun while testing curcuits. I especially like to check resistances to check for grounds.

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Reply #98 – November 25, 2012, 12:45:59 PM

well, atleat we know one thing, the fuse link blows again and again so lets zoom in on that issue.

foe~good step you added

tom~ i think he's going to nail the issue here in a couple days if not today. got a feeling

my thoughts are to focus on that one circuit at this time, thats the issue.

86~ are your wiring diagrams still not matching up or what?

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Reply #99 – November 25, 2012, 02:38:29 PM

I sure hope I get this picture attachments SOON! I have the link attached with a 10 amp. fuse, and the relay disconnected.

Here we go again.

Reply #100 – November 25, 2012, 03:11:01 PM

I hope this works!

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Reply #101 – November 25, 2012, 03:11:46 PM

Finally! Now if I can only figure out what I just did!!!!

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Reply #102 – November 25, 2012, 04:08:43 PM

jcassity,
I find some strange colored wires on my harness that I have yet to find on the schematic.

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Reply #103 – November 25, 2012, 05:13:36 PM

Jay please explain to this guy that he has to use a continuity tester to isolate the grounded link. He also has to isolate all the GOOD circuits. I dont have the patience any more dealing with this post. The guy just does not listen. And stacks the only true way to test shorts is with a regular test light. As i explained to you an ohm meter is to sensitive and will pick up loaded circuits then you definitely will be chasing BALLOONS. I have been chasing shorts down for more years than i care to admit and never once used an OHM METER. I have used an OHM meter to chase down High resistant sensor escapes like ABS sensors ETC. But for shorts NO WAY. He has a hard short to ground and a test light is the tool. But trying to explain it that he has to isolate the links and use the tool properly is something i just cant explain to this person. So break down the good circuits and and ignore them and concentrate on the one blowing the link. This is dun by installing the test light in series with either the battery side or ground side of the battery cables. Simple and straight forward. You can leave it hooked up and wiggle the harness and see if the light goes out or DIMS. If so you located the general area of the short to ground. Like i said many many posts ago to blow a link you have a hard and fast short to ground. NOW FIND IT!!!

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Reply #104 – November 25, 2012, 05:21:59 PM

Quote from: 86cougar;403229

I sure hope I get this picture attachments SOON! I have the link attached with a 10 amp. fuse, and the relay disconnected.

WHY ARE YOU POSTING A DODGE SLANT SIX PHOTO????? Is this the car you are working on. Please dear GOD let me understand what this guy is doing. 86 YOU HAVE TO BE PLAYING US FOR DUMMIES. THAT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL ANSWER. For what reason on gods earth would you post a slant 6. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!