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Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #165 –
Wire nuts on a CAR ENGINE. That is way over the TOP!!!! Well i do not know what that bundle of a rats nest is and it is beyond fixing unless i was actually seeing it in PERSON!!! Sorry!! The Fuel pump is operating correctly LEAVE IT ALONE!!! Now you need to retrieve codes.

Is that thging in your hand a test LIGHT??? And does it work??? You might want to use that bulb setup you made. You need to retrieve codes or you are dead in the WATER.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #166 –
So, I take it I need to go and solder the harness. You did see the pictures of the ALDL.

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #167 –
Alright!! I went into the car and looked at those two wires I  have told you about. They are where the radio hooks up. One is hot (y/gray dots) and the other is (y/blk stripe) So I put them together and tried to get codes. This is what I got: 1  11  111  111  1  11  111  111  1  (long pause)  1  11111  1    11111 Then it stopped.  Let me know if that helps!

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #168 –
I tried to read this but some of it does not seem right. Is it TPS short power, and air injection (smog pump)? The rest I could not make out.

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Reply #169 –
I just off the phone with jcassity, and I had him listen to the codes and he had me answer some question and try different things. Now with the yellow wires hooked up to the computer and adjusting the idle, my car seems to be idling a lot better. I need to fix an exhaust leak, check the transmission fluid one more time then test drive it. Alright!!!!!!!

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Reply #170 –
codes just got successfully pulled. KOER...... using a 12v buzzer
23- who cares for now but its there
31-evp was not hooked up, now it is.

in memory,
15- makes sense since the batt was disc so many times.

He will pull codes again to see if the 31 clears, 15 will hang around for a while before it goes away.
23 can be addressed later i suppose.

up'd the idle till it felt right when in D or R
seems smooth now but we'll see.

smog pump pipe that comes from the exhaust is broken off, needs temp plug or perm splice for testing but that can wait.

asked he check for nice deep blueish white spark,,, he will report back.
we cant do fuel testing, fitting is broke off,,,  but eec not indicating lean/rich so it is what it is.

as for dist orientation, my number 1, coil and number 6 plug posts on the dizzy are pointing straight at the fire wall.
this give us the optimum tfi orientation.
his car has number 8 dizzy post pointing straight at the fire wall.... Odd?  what say you tom? still off a tooth?  the TDC test you had him do tells us its correct though,, confussed.  Foe? your thoughts?

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #171 –
Everybody must be still helping Vinnie out....

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #172 –
It is so ironic that VINNE BLEW A LINK. The exact one you blew.

Ok where is the timing and do you have enough range to adjust it to 10* BTDC If not you have to move it one tooth then retime.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #173 –
Ironic... you have some crazy friends! Seriously Tom, I really want to Thank You! You were there to help out a person you never met before even though it was driving you crazy. Well, the Marine in you showed up and stood strong! I don't care what any one say's about you, joking or not. After about five month's of working on this car it looks like I have a few more small items to take care of and hopefully, I will be on the road again. I still can't believe it's almost over....for now anyway. I need a break! A lot of guys here helped me out and sometimes it got a little confusing but looks like we all got it done. I'm sure it would take me a long time to understand what most of you already know about cars. Seriously, I've been considering going back to school and taking a few automotive classes (GOD help my instructor)!! Yep Tom, it looks like I've got to move the distributor a tooth...kinda like some scary movies end, you know Jason never dies. Thanks to all of you who helped me out!!!

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #174 –
your dizzy drives a hex shaped shaft  which drives the oil pump.

due to the geometry conflict where the dizzy gear may not agree with the hex shaft , it may be very difficult to move the dizzy one tooth.

i always hate to deal with this small but major issue.

if your able to "feel" the dizzy drop in on another tooth ( i suspect you need to move it clockwise one tooth) , and you feel / see that the dizzy isnt going in all the way,,, you have to kinda rotate the crank a little to the left and right to help the dizzy mate up to the oil pump shaft.

its real hard to explain but you'll see.

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Reply #175 –
No sweat if you can index a DIZZY you are not that BAD!!! Always remember when indexing for late timing you have to ADVANCE THE ROTOR!!! Then back off the body!!! SEMPER FI. Now button it up and drive the GOD DAM THING. RECON RULES!!! THE ROOSTER!!! WELL AT LEAST I GOT A COOL NICK NAME OUT OF THE DEAL!!!


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I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Timing a possessed Cougar.

Reply #176 –
Adjusting the dizzy won't be a problem. I must have went back and forth 30 times trying to get it to line up. Every time I move it have to turn it a little so it drops, nothing new. I really did learn a lot from all you guys! I really am going to look up auto electronics at the local college. I took some auto classes there, but that was about 30 years ago (half you guys probably weren't even born yet). I don't have to tell you things have changed since then! Thanks!
 

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Reply #177 –
Quote from: 86cougar;403525
Adjusting the dizzy won't be a problem. I must have went back and forth 30 times trying to get it to line up. Every time I move it have to turn it a little so it drops, nothing new. I really did learn a lot from all you guys! I really am going to look up auto electronics at the local college. I took some auto classes there, but that was about 30 years ago (half you guys probably weren't even born yet). I don't have to tell you things have changed since then! Thanks!
Classes may help a little. It will give you some of the basics of fuel injection and the electrical that you need help with. Unfortunately, much of what we do on here is history. This site will be your best friend for working on a Fox Bird or Cougar. I have learned a lot here because these cars are before my time (not by age, but cars I had worked on professionally). We will be glad to assist you when we can. That is just what we do. We help each other, and laugh with each other, even though most of us will never meet in person.

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Reply #178 –
tom,
I earned me a 1st ID badge from battalion but i was a civ in iraq so it was kind of an honor.

btw,, that badge,, i use the same strategy when i fart.  (no disrespect),, just sayin  : )

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Reply #179 –
And may be just as lethal! (lol)