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You need subframe connectors

Reply #30
Just wanted to post up a link to Global West's full length sub frames for the 83-88 Thunderbirds for those of us with no welding skills.  I have these in the '83 Bird and my '93 Coupe and they are IMO the best bar none in a prefabricated subframe.  I prefer the way they run on the outside of the factory subframes thus keeping some ground clearance for going over speed bumps as both of my cars are pretty low.  Anyhow, just another alternative.

http://www.globalwest.net/1980-88thunderbird.html (third down on the right side)

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #31
I'll post them as I find them..




as long as your beefing things up..... might want to do this too


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Reply #32
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #33
Yea I should I Do have enough power to rip the control arms out. How do I do that? Suppose I should start a new thread for that?
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Reply #34
The holes in the floor was that hammer and screw driver work or sawzall?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]:ford:87 Turbo Coupe through the floor sub frame connectors, 5.8 swap Ford racing heads Harland sharp 1.6 rockers BBK shorty swap headers 2 1/2 BBk X pipe magnaflow ler's. Megasquirt 2 with 36lbs injectors on hurricane intake with 4150 throttle body.Tremec TKO 600 Quicktime blowsheild spec stage 3 clutch. 3.73 gears and still not done

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Reply #35
Quote from: thewestie;357327
Yea I should I Do have enough power to rip the control arms out. How do I do that? Suppose I should start a new thread for that?

I bought stang battleboxes and modded them a bit... real cheap off ebay $70 when I got them
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #36
Quote from: thewestie;357330
The holes in the floor was that hammer and screw driver work or sawzall?

5" cutting wheel... yea, think it's time for a build thread....
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #37
don't think i have many good pics from underneath... I could take some.... I know where the car is....lol
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #38
Don't worry about the boxes I'm planning a 31 spline rear end swap and CHE control arms next year. I wont be doing any hole shots with slicks on the bottle this year. I just need to get what Ive got apart back together so it can go for paint. Its supposed to be there in a week or two. At the rate I'm going I might have to push it. Every time I turn around it I should do this while it in this stage If I keep going Aghhh
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Reply #39
Hey guys.  I was wondering...  For those of you who have used 1" by 2" box tubing for your sub frame connectors, what wall thickness did you use?  The thickest walled 1" by 2" box tubing I can find around here has walls that are 1/8" thick.  Is that what most of you used?. I considered using Global West's SFC's, but I saw that it's round tubing AND it has bends in it.  I can't see how they could be very strong.  I'm also not keen on their price tag either compared to just buying box tubing.  Since I don't plan to lower this car, should I use 2" by 2" box tube with a 1/4" wall and call it a day?  That would be nice and strong at least. 

What do you think?
William

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Reply #40
.120" wall (1/8") is plenty.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #41
Roll cages have bends in them so I guess you should not trust them either...really?  The price tag thing I can understand but bends?  To quote Chris Carter on SportsCenter, "Come on man!"

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #42
my race cars are built out of 1-1/4" .083 wall chromo and have more bends than you can shake a stick at.. i guess they're not strong either lol

i have the global west SFC's on my capri.. they're pretty sturdy all on their own.. i added extra cross bracing tubes and i'm 10 times happier with them, than any square tube SFC's i've ever owned or installed
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Reply #43
The tubing those Global West subframes are made of looks small to me.  I thought someone here said they have thin walls too.  I thought roll cages were made out of 2" tubing that's fairly heavy-walled.
William

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Reply #44
Quote from: daminc;357202







 
DAMINC you wouldn't happen to have measurements on your subframe connectors? I'd like to put a set together since I'm 6' and well over large and could really enjoy stiffening up my bird.