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turbo upgrade problems...new nightmare :(

Reply #15
a loop wont work for the return, the return needs to be relatively straight, and on a downhill slope for the most part.
It's Gumby's fault.

turbo upgrade problems...new nightmare :(

Reply #16
can you not use a stock return line?
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Reply #17
Stock return lines suck...

Anyway a loop could work, as long as it's all "mostly" downhill, although it could be iffy with -10 AN as that's about the same ID as the stock return line.

There's a big debate over there on TF about return lines at the moment anyway. I dunno. Mine just goes more or less straight down, but it also goes into the pan, not the block.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
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Reply #18
Quote from: Red_LX
Stock return lines suck....



so what you are saying is  ford spent all this money in time and reaserch for a stainless convoluted oil return line and it sucks?  It is near impossible to run a braided return line in the factory turbo position.Ask me how i know.

I had about 60.00 in a line i had made to replace a broken return the angle is so extreme it kinks the hose into yes it was braided steel.
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Reply #19
Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87
It is near impossible to run a braided return line in the factory turbo position.Ask me how i know.

I had about 60.00 in a line i had made to replace a broken return the angle is so extreme it kinks the hose into yes it was braided steel.


Yeah, I already said that, on the first page.

And yes the factory return lines suck. For one, you can't get new ones, for two, they usually end up getting crushed, messed up, or cracked, and the fitting that goes into the block is usually so rusty that it's unusable by the time you get it out.

I already said to use that line I posted a link to because it's specifically made for the 2.3 Turbo. That's the only braided line I would attempt to use with the oil return going into the block.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip


turbo upgrade problems...new nightmare :(

Reply #21
I got the drain kit today  I think it wont be a problem making this work.  here is a pic

turbo upgrade problems...new nightmare :(

Reply #22
new question, does anyone make replacement studs for turbo mounting?  and what have people been using?  I've been chasing he**  trying to find nuts that will fit and the ones that I found seem to have messed up the threads on one of the studs.  I'd like to replace all of them with something better if possible.

turbo upgrade problems...new nightmare :(

Reply #23
new question, does anyone make replacement studs for turbo mounting?  and what have people been using?  I've been chasing he**  trying to find nuts that will fit and the ones that I found seem to have messed up the threads on one of the studs.  I'd like to replace all of them with something better if possible.


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Reply #25
update, Orielly's sells the studs for our cars,  I changed the  gasket just for it to blow out again.  the problem is that the stock pipe is up against the body and when tightened down it pulls the top of the turbo out causing the gasket to blow.  So now a new exhaust is in the making will keep you updated :D

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Reply #26
well heres an update....  turbo to manifold gasket is blown again.. :mad:  for some reason the bolts are working themselves loose and causeing the turbo to blow.  I was told to use brass nuts to make things easier the next time I go into it but they seem to be causing me more problems by not being able to tighten them down due to the softer metal and the risk of stripping the threads.  so this time I will use steel nuts and lock tight. hopefully this will be the last time I have to deal with this problem.  any other ideas of things I could try?  maybe I have a warped surface?  gonna tear into it next weekend if the weather is nice.    maybe I'll have the oil line kit from aerobird-motorsports by then so I can get it all taken care of at once.

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Reply #27
Loctite won't do you much good, it's too hot for that stuff (it's only good up to around 350 degrees).

If the gasket is continually blowing you have a problem...also are you actually "blowing" it because that is a steel gasket, doesn't really blow out. Are you sure the nuts are working loose? I only had that happen once on my car, and that was when the U-joints went out on the driveshaft, and I guess vibrated the engine so bad that the nuts worked loose.

It sounds to me like either the surface of the manifold or the surface of the turbine housing is not true and flat, and this is allowing the gasket to blow.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

turbo upgrade problems...new nightmare :(

Reply #28
IDEA... drill the holes out put a bolt trought the hole and put a nut on it with a lockwasher..

it worked on my headers for the 5-0

 

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Reply #29
What you need are the proper nuts.  You need the postive deformation type.  Look on McMaster-Carr.com, I got a bag pretty cheaply.  Actually, just PM me your addy and I'll send you some.  Normal nuts will not work, and they will work themselves loose everytime.
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