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July 05, 2015, 09:21:27 PM

I need a new short block.

Car gets hot and gauge shows a loss of oil pressure. I had fixed all of the gauge issues last year. Now when it gets hot I open the hood, blip the throttle body, and I can ever so slightly hear a little noise from the bottom end on deceleration.....

WONDERFUL..... :mad:

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Reply #1 – July 05, 2015, 09:30:39 PM

oh balls....

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Reply #2 – July 05, 2015, 09:36:31 PM

I noticed some upper end knock, I think, the other day. I said screw it and keep driving it. I only notice it after it idles for a few minutes.

Good luck with yours. What is the specs, mileage etc....

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Reply #3 – July 05, 2015, 10:24:50 PM

Crank and pistons have about 40k miles on them. Done back in 2000.... New bearings as well.... Stock bottom end stuff.

Putting my hand on the fender I can feel it.

$1,500 and someone can take the car. I'm shaging DONE.

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Reply #4 – July 06, 2015, 01:12:56 AM

Jesus tap-dancing Christ. :(
I don't know what to say. That just sucks.
I've been reading about the manner in which 302 blocks split under high horsepower/bad tune/stress and the "loss of oil pressure" comment made me think about that. But you think this is a rotating assembly issue? I was pretty sure that thing was dialed in real nice. Some will claim "Oh yaaa I've seen one split at 300 horsepower!" Maybe if it was DEAD lean all the time but 1hp/cu inch just isn't that much stress.

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Reply #5 – July 06, 2015, 01:19:12 AM

95% sure it's rod knock. 100% sure it's bottom end. Passenger side. Sounds like the #3.....

The kick in the ass is it has ZERO loss in power.... The idle is all over the place now too was idling at 1600 in the driveway. I disconnected the IAC and it did nothing. Just sat there (with no knock) until I shut it off and restarted it. Got the idle to come down to 750 and you can just barely hear it. With the hood closed it's inaudible.

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Reply #6 – July 06, 2015, 02:42:06 AM

$200 plus shipping and ill give ya the block I've had new on the stand forever. Bought a car with a bad motor, threw a new block in it and the trans only had 1 gear. 20 miles or so on it with some junk used stuff attached.

Bought another car for the trans and tries to blow the motor and it never happened.

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Reply #7 – July 06, 2015, 07:27:57 AM

Swap the engine. You know it isn't hard, and you got 15 years from that one. I swapped mine not long ago. it took us 6 hours to install it, which included taking the cam and heads from the old engine along with the intake.

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Reply #8 – July 06, 2015, 08:19:06 AM

I got 15 years, but less than 40K.....

Stacks, got pics of the block? Any idea the mileage on it? What's it out of?

I'm at a crossroads. The last 5 years have been much more down time then drive time with this car.

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Reply #9 – July 06, 2015, 09:40:28 AM

New to me block from a friend pending......

Roller block 306, Eagle rotating assembly.....Price was right.

The fun should start sometime this week. Time to start working OT.

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Reply #10 – July 06, 2015, 09:40:50 AM

I have a bare block that *appears* freshly honed, no idea on its previous history but if you met me halfway or thereabouts I'd just give it to ya. I got it as part of a parts grab-bag deal and it's been sitting inside for 3 years. I don't NEED the thing and the exterior has light surface rust. All of the innards look great. Then all you'd have to do is get it checked out and good to go?

Cursed or not, that's your car man :)
AND, and, 1500 would be a smoking deal for someone but that would be terrible. That thing's totally rust free right? No subframe issues? I know I've seen pics of the interior, it's black and sinister, all of the mods you've set up...you just can't find these cars like that. Don't let her go you'll be kicking yourself, and you know it.

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Reply #11 – July 06, 2015, 10:02:19 AM

Right side frame rail has a hole smaller than a dime that's been there for 3 years and hasn't grown. I had one spot below the rear window after this winter that I sanded, painted, and blended. Gotta redo the clear on it. It's a wee bit hazy. Underside of the car is clean.

Nothing's set in stone yet. Offer's still up for the car. I really should just concentrate on one toy at his point....

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Reply #12 – July 06, 2015, 11:33:45 AM

Yeah you should swap the drivetrain from that Giant Turd into the Cougar!!! :D (no offense on the Mustang though. If you love it, run with it.)

Hey tastes change and people change. But you'll never lose your hankering for these cars. They're a true disease, you're stuck with it!
If I didn't JUST buy another BLACK COUGAR I'd come and get the thing LOL.

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Reply #13 – July 06, 2015, 12:00:32 PM

The Mustang is faster, but it doesn't have that........SOUL...... it doesn't FEEL alive. It's close, but only after putting a ton of work into it. The Cougar is intuitive. An extension of myself if you will what with everything I've done to it. Even the LSC has a hankering of that feeling in stock form.

Somewhere before 2000 auto manufacturers lost that. The car as a machine is overall a much better piece of equipment than what was the average offering 30 years ago. I'd LOVE to take my wife's 2012 Focus SE with it's 160 hp 2.0l engine and take it to the dragstrip against the Mark VII; both in totally stock form with fresh tune ups. I think the extra 2 gears and less weight would put them pretty close.

I can pretty much guarantee that the Focus would smoke any STOCK fox body Cougar/Tbird. It pulled 143 hp on a friend's dyno. That translates to less than an 11% drivetrain loss....

Still doesn't mean it's more fun to drive. FWIW -- I've driven the old 3rd gen Camaros that were around when the fox platform was in full swing. They don't hold a candle to our cars. THey still have more character than most new stuff.

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Reply #14 – July 06, 2015, 01:01:17 PM

Maybe it's the imperfections that make older stuff more fun, more "organic". The more precise the machine gets, the more machine-like it is, and less something that you can "relate to" if that makes any sense. Now that's not to say that an '87 Toyota Camry is going to be a really enjoyable car, surely it's steering is also not as tight and its panel gaps not like what we see built now. The Audi A5 is a pretty good seller, for the set that its aimed at. Not everyone is buying one, but its a luxury car. The big two-door cruiser ain't dead yet. Someone just needs to make one worthwhile, and that one happens to be, very much so.

I'd love to take one in 20 years and drop a big block in it or something :hick: