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4 cyl. T-5 question....

My friend has a 4 banger Fox with a 5 speed. He's changing the worn bearing retainer. He stated that he bought one for a T-5, and it didn't fit. Is there a difference between the 4 and 8 cyl. bearing retainers?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

4 cyl. T-5 question....

Reply #1 –
I just talked to my friend Curt, and he stated that the bearing retainer I gave him (my extra retainer) does not fit his transmission. So, something is different. Waiting for more info from him.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #2 –
Here's the info given to me. He said this is the numbers from the tag on it....

E9ZR-7003-AA  REP AU
13-52-194  1299OE3192
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #3 –
The input shaft on the 4 cylinder T-5 and the v-8 T-5 are different.  The pilot bearing tip is smaller diameter on the 4 cylinder T-5's than the V-8 cars.  Any of the parts stores should have the correct bearing/bushing.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #4 –
Thanks. Now to find a replacement bearing retainer. None in sight for the 4 banger. The V-8 is different. May have to machine the V-8 one to fit. To me, it appears that the difference is the thickness of the lip where the bearing race fits. If it were opened up, I think that would do it............but that's just an educated guess, of course.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #5 –
Vinnie,

I think that one of the driveline shops up there carries T-5 parts.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #6 –
Maybe Blumenthals. I have their number and will call them Monday from work.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

4 cyl. T-5 question....

Reply #7 –
I looked on Tremec's website and they have dealer locator:

Inland Truck Parts
1905 S. Nicklas Avenue
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. 73128 United States
Telephone: +1 (405) 682-1362
Fax: +1 (405) 682-3529
http://www.inlandtruck.com
sales@inlandtruck.com

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #8 –
Darren, I found a guy on the Corral (actually a business) who has had this issue many times, and they mill the V-8 pieces to fit. He's going to have one done for us this Monday and ship it to us for the car. He's doing a steel one so that can't hurt.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #9 –
You got it they are different. Also you can use the 4 cylinder tranny in a V8 if you use a ranger DIESEL piolot bearing in the V8. Also the ratios are different.
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Reply #10 –
Thanks Tom. That's the info I had found as well. A 1983 2.2 liter diesel powered Ford ranger.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..
 

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Reply #11 –
My Pleasure Vinnie!! Thank You
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HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #12 –
Vinnie was asking about the bearing retainer, and yes, they are different between the two, as the input bearings are different sizes.

To me, it didn't look like there was enough meat on the V8 retainer to mill out for the larger 4 cyl bearing, but I guess it's been done. The 4 cyl bearing is a bigger dia AND taller, so the milling has to be deeper as well.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #13 –
Quote from: Chuck W;415499
Vinnie was asking about the bearing retainer, and yes, they are different between the two, as the input bearings are different sizes.

To me, it didn't look like there was enough meat on the V8 retainer to mill out for the larger 4 cyl bearing, but I guess it's been done. The 4 cyl bearing is a bigger dia AND taller, so the milling has to be deeper as well.

Chuck you are correct!!! The retainers are totally different and i cant imagine anyone milling one to fit. But i am sure Vinny has researched this and i am curious as people actually have machinists made new ones from scratch. As far as i know you cant make one fit the 4 Cylinder units. I could be wrong but i have had this issue a couple of times down the road
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #14 –
I looked at a V-8 and 4 cyl. retainer side by side. The 4 cyl piece looks identical except for the wider opening to fit the bearing and race, and, the 4 cyl. retainer's wall for them is thinner. The company I contacted about this says they do these "conversions" all the time. The one we're getting (retainer) is solid steel, not aluminum and steel like the aftermarket pieces, so, being solid steel, I'd imagine it would be fine.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..