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94 t-5 work or not?

I ran the id tag number on the transmission I just pulled from a 351W that was in a ford ranger.  Id number was 1352-246.  It said 94 5.0 v8 WC when I ran the tag.  My question is can I use it with my 302 from a 91 mustang?  Is there any problems about where the transmission mounts to cross member?  I know when i cut my hole in the floor board, I will have to have the hole about 1 inch back than normal.  I also have a drive shaft that will have to cut down also from a police crown vic.  Anything else? 

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94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #1
Get the cutch/pressureplate and throw out bearing ordered for a 94-95 mustang 5.0.

If your going from an aod, you need a flywheel, any 87-95 mustang should work. You will need a min-style starter, 91-93 mustang.

I re-used my stock aod crossmember, trans mount and driveshaft.

I used the 3.8 bell, which uses a 164 tooth fly wheel, opposed to the mustangs regular 157 tooth. This ment I had to run a 80's ford truck flywheel, clutch/pressure plate and 92 up 5.0 or 5.8 ford truck starter.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #2
I was told that tranny from an SN-95 will work if you also use the bell housing as well, and it'll set your shifter back just a wee bit.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #3
+1 on what Vinnie said.

This is a good read on the history of the T-5 and a good site for parts:

http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technical_Bits/t5_history.htm

Another good read on the differences and swaps:

http://www.pro-forceperformance.com/t-5_interchange.htm

The thing that would probably give me heart burn is the location of the clutch fork on the 94-95 cars being at the 7-8 o'clock position rather than the 9 o'clock position of the 85-93 T-5's.  That would just be an exhaust issue more than anything but like anything else it can be worked around.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #4
My stock exhaust fit fine. I think shortoes would too. It only sticks out maybe one inch past the bellhousing.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #5
One other thing to remember is that the 94-95 T-5's don't have the NSS on them like the earlier models.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #6
They use a oss on the 99-04s.

The 94-98 should be compatable with the stock t-5 or aod sensor. Might need to swap.the speedo.gear.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #7
http://www.accutach.com/Pages/VSSvsOSSSwaps.aspx

Some light reading on vss vs oss.

They say a vss is used on 94-98s.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #8
I had a vss from eariler model and local parts house said it was the same for the 94.  In the first picture you see a plug on the driver side with two pr0ngs on it.  I know if had the reverse lights hook to it, is that all that is?  Not a NSS too?  Will not having a NSS affect the A9P I am going to use?  Once I figure out what gear my friend put in the 9inch rear end I will get the right gear for speedo.

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #9
The NSS is the neutral safety switch and you can bypass the one on the tranny and on Fox car as it will still start and run just fine.  I know for a fact you can bypass the one on the tranny as mine is this way.  I have attached a pic of a Fox T-5 which has the NSS on the top plate.  The 94+ cars do not have this.



Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #10
Ok, thanks, I will probably be the only one driving it, so I hope I never start in gear.  Will the A9P have to see anything in order to crank?

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #11
Unless you have a 87-88TC...the non-hydrolic 86-93 mustang setup maybe a better idea....perhaps easier.

Travis

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #12
Is the 94-95 mustang clutch action hydrolic or standard cable?
Mike

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #13
79-95 are cable style and use the same cable and quadrant, 96-04 are cable style and use the same cable, & 05+ are hydraulic.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

94 t-5 work or not?

Reply #14
Quote from: Aerocoupe;414271
96+ are hydraulic.
Darren

Really?? The 98' Cobra T-45 I have is cable operated. I just bought a Clutch fork for it and it said from 96' up to 04'. 05' + were hydraulic.


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