Seafoamed the TC

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Seafoamed the TC

Reply #30 – May 24, 2012, 02:28:41 AM

Quote from: sarjxxx;390662

LMAO Tom I did it again the other day. But instead of doing in my driveway I did it in the parking lot of Auto Zone right after purchasing it. I then proceeded to floor it down the street. FILLED it with smoke. Most fun I've had in a few days.

That is my favorite part about seafoaming, all the looks from other drivers like whats wrong with your car.

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Reply #31 – May 24, 2012, 06:50:47 AM

I would think so!!! But when we do it people call the COPS. People in the area dont like cars and they complain about the shop. The building is very old and the neighborhood is built up. The YUPPIES would like us to sell and MOVE. So anything out of the ordinary is a RED FLAG TO THEM. Most of the neighboring houses are ok with it but the PRIUS driving TREE HUGGERS COMPLAIN. The other day a guy came to me and complained about the fumes from the shop. We were working on a CAMARO and it was a bit loud to say the least!!! He had a PRIUS!!! The guy told me to get in to the 21 CENTURY and buy a fuel efficient car. First off i told him to POUND SAND and then i pointed to the MIDNIGHTER. I told him i had a full size car with a turbo 2.3 that gets great mileage. He laughed. SO DID I !!!!! Then i told him i would rather be dead than drive a PIECE OF PRIUS. Just me an old timer at best. The guy was all PISSED OFF. AND WHO THE FLIP CARES!!!!:hick::hick::hick:

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Reply #32 – May 24, 2012, 10:21:38 AM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;390669

the PRIUS driving TREE HUGGERS

Those are the worst kind of people I have ever met. A bunch of ignorant self righteous s:beatyoass:

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Reply #33 – May 24, 2012, 11:24:49 AM

Quote from: Chrome;390535

Is that not hard on catalitic converters?

Did we ever get a serious answer to this question?

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Reply #34 – May 24, 2012, 04:23:55 PM

Anything that isn't the correct mixture of HC's/NOx/CO/etc is "hard" on cats. Running rich is VERY destructive because the heat becomes overwhelming and the internals might melt/warp/plug....I'm no expert but there's a reason cat'ed cars say "Unleaded fuel ONLY". Leaded fuel will also destroy them. They are sensitive to contamination.

I don't see the point of running seafoam through any car. I'm sure it is a powerful solvent, but the only components you can't get to physically to clean by hand are the intake and exhaust valves. If there are no misfires from your exhaust, no "thwuh thwuhh thwuhh" puffing noises, then guess what? Valves are closing and holding compression. Same with intake, simply shouldn't hear backfiring (LOL)/puffing anything like that. If it were me, I'd rather take a garden hose tricking water, and spray that into the TB while holding 2-3K rpm. Just enough that it starts stumbling/slowing down. The old tale of throwing a glass of water down the intake won't work. The water will flash boil and knock loose carbon, but not with that small quantity. Cars that develop leaky headgaskets have super-clean combustion chambers where it leaks into, and over time, every day, washes things away. So that trick has to be done several times, I'd say 15-20 minutes at a time. And again, careful not to DUMP water in, don't want a hydrolocked piston...

And if you've got serious carbon holding valves open...you've got more important problems. A rough idle? Pull off the IAC/EGR/EGR plate and se all of the carbon out, clean everything with copious amonts of carb cleaner or something similar. Ideally have the upper and maybe lower intakes hot-tanked or pressure wash them out, off the car of course. But some seafoam isn't gonna remove all of the built up carbon + gasoline + oil vapor from the PCV that you see in the upper intake.

Finally, of course if you don't have to deal with a high-enhanced dyno-test emissions check, BLOCK THE EGR off, or unplug the vac line. This is all the main reason I have all of my cougars and my crown vic that way. EGR valve itself is going to start sticking, same with the IAC, potentially valves in the cylinder heads. Good ounce of prevention. I just question as to how effective Seafoam really is towards what you want it to do, especially after dealing with the long-ass smoke signal that would probably make the cops think you were roasting 'em LOL.

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Reply #35 – May 25, 2012, 12:26:42 AM

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PRIUS driving TREE HUGGERS

If I pass a prius in the mustang, I make sure to rev at it :giggle:

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Reply #36 – May 25, 2012, 12:50:23 AM

please note when you are pouring the seafoam into the vac line "i used the main line to the master" do not pour too fast causing the seafoam to pour on the hot manfoild.

glad i always have a extinguisher near engine bay went up in flames " no harm done to truck no loss if there was Kia Sportage"

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Reply #37 – May 25, 2012, 02:15:16 AM

I'm just going to put a sticky note on my desk that says "NEVER DO THIS" right under the word seafoam. If I end up with a carbon problem, I'll just fix it, thank you very much.

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Reply #38 – May 25, 2012, 05:52:48 AM

Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;390728

I'm just going to put a sticky note on my desk that says "NEVER DO THIS" right under the word seafoam. If I end up with a carbon problem, I'll just fix it, thank you very much.

Actually the car companies have a procedure to DE-CARBONIZE engines. So as i agree with you on MAGIC POTIONS. I ask you if you have a car in the dealer where you work fail emissions because of deposits OBD1. You pull the heads and DE-CARBON IT??? Or do you follow FORDS top engine cleaner procedure and chemicals to remove deposits?? Just asking!!!

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Reply #39 – May 25, 2012, 06:06:28 AM

ZONDA !!!!!

You might want to rethink removing the EGR VALVE. They are not evil things and they do work rather well controlling PING. And if by some chance you disable one from an OBD2 Car the SES light will pop up before you have the chance to close the HOOD. Other than that you post was spot on. Anyone changing a blown Head Gasket can see what introducing water/coolant to a cylinder can clean it rather well. I run water injection in the MIDNIGHTER

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Reply #40 – May 25, 2012, 07:46:13 AM

Oh believe me if I DID have to suffer with driving an OBDII car, I wouldn't be doing anything like that....aaaaaand that's why I have no OBD II cars

And yes, it'll help keep pre-ignition in check, I've never heard any of them do that. The red car has it's timing bumped a little too, never an issue. I also have 160 degree 'stats in everything, and plenty of well-functioning radiator.

But I suppose it wouldn't be something to advise *everyone* to do. I just remember the first time I thought about it..."Soot + breather hose oil from the valve cover hooked up to the the throttle body? Wow so THATS where that black goo comes from. DAMMIT!!!!" Granted plenty of cars last a long time with these things never being touched. Too much idling maybe, where the valve is widest open...better-designed IACs would probably not get stuck...

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Reply #41 – May 25, 2012, 02:09:24 PM

Too much idling maybe, where the valve is widest open...better-designed IACs would probably not get stuck..

You made a typo or i mis-understood what you are saying. BUT !!! An EGR is never opened at IDLE. They open off idle and during cruse. Closed at idle and WOT.

EGR is a plus because it cools the combustion chamber like crazy. It really does little to soot an engine up. Bye the way a stout cam is an EGR VALVE!! GM uses higher overlap to accomplish EGR FLOW without a PHYSICAL valve. Lowering combustion temps is a definite PLUS!!!

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Reply #42 – May 25, 2012, 02:28:25 PM

EGR being vac-operated, I would think almost no vac = closed at WOT, high vac = open to the maximum amount at idle?

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Reply #43 – May 25, 2012, 10:51:23 PM

Quote from: ZondaC12;390749

EGR being vac-operated, I would think almost no vac = closed at WOT, high vac = open to the maximum amount at idle?

I am going to say this with CONVICTION. Their is no engine that i know of that has an egr valve open at idle. As the matter of fact a lot of FORD OBD1 cars will also set an SES light if the EGR is disconnected. Ford as well as other car companies use an EGR position sensor. So disconnect it and the SES will come on before you could drive around the block. Check the service codes if you dont believe me. All EGR systems use either Timed vacuum or a solenoid to block full VACUUM at idle. You cant run EGR at IDLE.

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Reply #44 – May 25, 2012, 11:26:51 PM

I disagree the egr is a plus. It dumps hot exhaust gas into the intake. And every intake I have taken off has black carbon soot in the intake where the egr attached. Plus over time the egr builds up with carbon and needs to be cleaned or replaced.