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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #15
i hate OHC motors.. and i definitely hate having to work on ew
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #16
It's not the OHC motors i dislike, It's the cars. The stock engines are junk but their are options, affordable ones that trump the oem junk found in all those cars. You could drom a 500HP street engine in both a fox and a MN12 and I'll likely pick the fox every time. It has more class.
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #17
foxes are definitely better looking cars.. i often think about dropping an SC motor in a fox with an MS2 system, but the right opertunity has yet to present itself.. i almost put 1 in my capri, but glad i didn't, much happier with the route i took.. all in all, SC's will be the only post 1990 car you'll ever see me owning.. i hate 99% of cars built after then
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #18
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i often think about dropping an SC motor in a fox with an MS2 system
Complete waste of time money and energy outside of doing something for the sake alone of being "different". You still end up with a car that sound ricer typical disgusting.

I suppose I'm just being cynical. Even with the Foxes, I hate everything about them except for the body.
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #19
the sc's sound good when you use the right lers on them. mine had 2 flowmaster 40 series on it when i got it and it sounded like a 4 cylinder mustang with a nasty exhaust leak. i switched to cherry bomb turbo 2's as a cheap fix and it sounded a lot better, so i left them on. with the 10% pulley and cold air intake, you heard more from the front of the car, than the back.. but if i was to put an SC motor in a fox, i'd buy a 4.3 shortblock from SCP and do it right, topped off with the 2.0 charger
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #20
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[INDENT]                    the sc's sound good when[/INDENT]
\Meh, Subjective. A stock 99-04 GT with whatever for a cat-back sounds better than any configuration of a 6cyl MN car iMHO. The vid posted is a decent example. I suppose it sounds "nice" as specially or a 6cyl car but pretty much any mustang GT with a cat back will sound much, much better. Ditto for any mach 1 or cobra.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #21
Someone in Australia dropped a SC motor into an EA (88-91) Falcon
everyone asked why, as everyone just turbo's EA's over here :P

the other confusing part is, Holden released a Supercharged (m90) 3.8 V6 in the commodore for a number of years.
as nearly no one knows about post 70's thunderbirds here, they had no idea what it was from.
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #22
Quote from: shame302;370204
\Meh, Subjective. A stock 99-04 GT with whatever for a cat-back sounds better than any configuration of a 6cyl MN car iMHO. The vid posted is a decent example. I suppose it sounds "nice" as specially or a 6cyl car but pretty much any mustang GT with a cat back will sound much, much better. Ditto for any mach 1 or cobra.



i don't like the sound of them.. they're too obnoxious for my liking.. louder isn't always better.. i like my exhaust to have more rumble than anything else.. the loud, raspy sound of a cobra makes me want to punch babies
 

Quote from: EFFalcon;370208
Someone in Australia dropped a SC motor into an EA (88-91) Falcon
everyone asked why, as everyone just turbo's EA's over here :P

the other confusing part is, Holden released a Supercharged (m90) 3.8 V6 in the commodore for a number of years.
as nearly no one knows about post 70's thunderbirds here, they had no idea what it was from.


i stick to my previous statement made in another conversation.. australia gets all the cool cars, no fair!
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #23
Quote from: Haystack;370153
Every 89 up mn-12 I have ridden in just felt wrong. Hate the 4.6 too. Even with the extra 75 hp, still can't out run an 86 5.0 cougar.

You must have been driving an extremely worn out 4.6 running on 4 cylinders..... Now, I'm no huge mn-12 guy, but as being a previous owner of both a 94 thunderbird and 86 302 cougar (had both cars at the same time) stock vs. stock the Thunderbird would win everytime. Saying that it can't outrun an '86 Cougar is pretty bogus. Don't get me wrong, I loved  the Cat a lot better, the MN-12 was just a daily driver, but the cat would not outrun the bird on an SO motor.
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #24
According to the gtech meter, my SC was faster compared to my TC near stock to near stock.  Tc had boost controller, K+N, FMIC, and Stinger 3" exhaust. SC had pulley, CAI, Exhaust.  Tc trapped 90 at the dragstrip on 21# boost and SC trapped 95 on gtech(take that with a grain of salt) but gas milage on the SC is a killer.  Who the hell thought 2.73 gears in that heavy pig were a good idea?  To get better milage, I run the  thing in 4th gear instead of 5th.
The exhaust on the SC is growing on me though.  I have magnaflows on it and it actually sounds pretty good - till you get to 3000rpm, then it just gets loud!

88 t-bird tc - 14.97 @ 90  IHI 18 psi + k+n filter...so far - NOW HX-35 @25psi - 12.75@112    348rwhp/395rwtq
78 F-150 - 11.61@120 on 175shot N20 - 12.55@110 on motor - 5200# race weight:hick:

obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #25
i've never heard an SC with magnaflows.. well, that i know of anyway.. i bet it sounds a lot better than mine did with the lousy flowmasters
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #26
Quote from: Shadow;370213
i don't like the sound of them.. they're too obnoxious for my liking.. louder isn't always better.. i like my exhaust to have more rumble than anything else.. the loud, raspy sound of a cobra makes me want to punch babies

Hey, If you prefer a car that sounds like a farm tractor, good for you. I don't know exactly where you get off calling a cobra loud, raspy and obnoxious after watching that video but, Like I said, subjective. To each his own. Vid posted just makes me cringe. It sounds gross. As far as loud and raspy on a cobra, if that's the type of sound you go for, you pick a certain exhaust for it. They certainly don't have to sound that way. Mine does not.
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Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
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FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #27
i don't like sn95's or their motors.. i had a customer who would come in like clockwork, once a month, with his 99 GT.. i hated and still hate that car.. mt soul died a little each time i worked on the car. the first thing he wanted was SLP loudmouth lers, which make the 4.6 sound like a trans am.. loud, raspy as hell and overly obnoxious.. i finally turned the guy away when he asked if i'd do a lightening svt motor swap

i don't like loud and obnoxious, i like a decent tone and loud when you put it to the floor. you're right, SC's don't have any rumble, but they certainly don't sound like a farm tractor, that's a lousy comparison.. most people are surprised at what's in my capri and blue tc because they're not as loud as you'd expect them to be. both cars have flowmaster 60 series AND dynomax race bullets on them.. the race bullets are mounted up by the trans crossmeber with a 3bolt header  on the back, so i can disconnect the full length exhaust at the track.. i'm extremely satisfied with how they sound, not much louder than a 5.0 stang with flowmasters.. 9 times out of 10, you hear the turbo over the exhaust from inside the car.. that's how my SC was with the 10% pulley and silencer holes blocked off
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #28
The only 4.6 I ever really ran side by side with was a 94 cougar. Freind's little sisters car. Inherited it with around 32k. Who ever took off first won everytime. I am really not too impressed with most of the 4.6's. Top end, the 86 pulled on it ever so slightly.

My freinds 2001 gt does not even pass my 88 wagon till I'm doing 30-35mph. There is just no bottom end to them. Once they get going they really scoot though. I still think an h.o. swapped cat or bird with a stick would take on a 99-04 mustang gt.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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obviously not a fox, but WOW.. nasty SC

Reply #29
Quote from: Haystack;370403

My freinds 2001 gt does not even pass my 88 wagon till I'm doing 30-35mph. There is just no bottom end to them. Once they get going they really scoot though. I still think an h.o. swapped cat or bird with a stick would take on a 99-04 mustang gt.

Not calling you a liar, but this I really have a hard time believing.
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