kids clearing take off's March 03, 2010, 07:17:38 PM plain stupid at JFK. Kids supervised by parent to issue take off commands.Some people out there actually are saying its not a big deal as long as the kids are supervised. Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #2 – March 04, 2010, 11:09:15 AM One more reason people should stay on the ground Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #3 – March 04, 2010, 12:40:59 PM By MELANIE TROTTMAN And ANDY PASZTORThe Federal Aviation Administration suspended an air-traffic controller and his supervisor at New York's John F. Kennedy Airport, after the controller allegedly allowed his 10-year-old son to radio instructions to pilots.The FAA is investigating the matter, which occurred on the evening of Feb. 16 at one of the nation's busiest airports. It was reported by Boston television station WFXT-TV on Tuesday.The day after his son was there, according to people familiar with the details, the same controller brought another youngster, his daughter, into the controller tower, and she also allegedly transmitted some radio messages to aircraft."This lapse in judgment not only violated FAA's own policies, but common sense standards for professional conduct," FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said in a statement Wednesday.Doug Church, a spokesman for the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, an air traffic controllers union, said, "We do not condone this type of behavior in any way. It is not indicative of the highest professional standards that controllers set for themselves and exceed each and every day in the advancement of aviation safety."According to FAA and air-traffic-controller personnel, the boy apparently amused and impressed tower staffers with his knowledge of air-traffic-control language. One person familiar with the incident said the controller was proud of how much he had taught his son and may have been showing him off.In the recording, the boy's squeaky voice can be heard relaying instructions to the aircraft, apparently after hearing them from his father; at times, a controller jumped in with additional instruction. "That's what you get, guys, when the kids are out of school," a male voice in the tower said.In one exchange, the child can be heard saying, "JetBlue 171 contact departure." The pilot responded: "Over to departure JetBlue 171, awesome job."The comments indicate the JetBlue plane had just taken off, as controllers typically instruct pilots to switch to another radio frequency, referred to as departure control, shortly after liftoff.In another exchange, the child referred to an AeroMexico flight as "Airmex" and signed off by saying, "Adios." The recording can be heard here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5xV_N8N1U&feature=sub Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #4 – March 04, 2010, 12:48:12 PM LOL, I bet he gets some time off work for that! Is there a web award for dumbassedness of the year? lmao Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #5 – March 04, 2010, 02:05:46 PM I think it's cute and according to the articles the pilots thought the same thing! Nobody was ever in any danger whatsoever. Besides it's clear on the tape that the father still issued commands in between. The more important commands were still issued by the father, even that youtube recording is biased, they sped up the father's regular issued commands.Besides, the kid was told Exactly what to say. It's pretty much about the same as the father speaking in a high pitched voice. Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #6 – March 04, 2010, 02:32:38 PM Quote from: baxo;312659I think it's cute and according to the articles the pilots thought the same thing! Nobody was ever in any danger whatsoever. Besides it's clear on the tape that the father still issued commands in between. The more important commands were still issued by the father, even that youtube recording is biased, they sped up the father's regular issued commands.Besides, the kid was told Exactly what to say. It's pretty much about the same as the father speaking in a high pitched voice.Exactlty.Its one of those things like yeah it was wrong in a way but noone would have gotten hurt.The father should have said an ex girlfriend kicked him in the nads and thats was his voice just high pitched :lol: Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #7 – March 04, 2010, 02:42:05 PM I think it's great that the dad is involved in his child's life , did he use great judgment , well that can be debated. Personally i think NBD Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #8 – March 04, 2010, 03:01:49 PM It wasn't like the father walked off and left his kid at his terminal. He was there the entire time, telling his kid what to say.This will get blown out of proportion, as most things do. Especially when the media gets their hands on it.There was obviously never an issue of safety of those flights. If someone had thought so, there would have been protests at the time or it wouldn't of happened to begin with. Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #9 – March 04, 2010, 03:27:28 PM You know this sort of thing has happened in the past. The difference now is that the media got ahold of it and the FAA is going to be forced to do something to appease them. I hope the man does not lose his career for trying to share his job with his son.That being said, rules are rules. And what he did was technically against regulations, no matter how harmless it may have been. Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #10 – March 04, 2010, 03:36:52 PM They get paid big bucks too but they job i guess is wicked stressful (you can only work like 3 days a week or something). Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #11 – March 04, 2010, 03:37:32 PM Quote from: jkirchman;312664You know this sort of thing has happened in the past. The difference now is that the media got ahold of it and the FAA is going to be forced to do something to appease them. I hope the man does not lose his career for trying to share his job with his son.That being said, rules are rules. And what he did was technically against regulations, no matter how harmless it may have been.I agree with that. The hammer will come down on somebody. What if others done it, are the controllers side tracked? Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #12 – March 04, 2010, 05:59:12 PM Quote from: baxo;312659I think it's cute and according to the articles the pilots thought the same thing! Nobody was ever in any danger whatsoever. Besides it's clear on the tape that the father still issued commands in between. The more important commands were still issued by the father, even that youtube recording is biased, they sped up the father's regular issued commands.Besides, the kid was told Exactly what to say. It's pretty much about the same as the father speaking in a high pitched voice.Been there, done that. Never had any problems (dad worked 25 years in aviation) i have helped him many times. It´s pure fun to see a big plane follow accurate instructions from you. Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #13 – March 04, 2010, 06:14:17 PM I'm not sure an airport's control tower is a very good place for this "Bring your Kids to Work" BS! Quote Selected
kids clearing take off's Reply #14 – March 04, 2010, 06:27:46 PM honestly i pity that kid, what a sad world he will eventually have to live in :rolleyes: Quote Selected
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