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Reply #15
So you've got a stock 5.0 and you're going to put 4.10s and a mini spool in the rear? :wtf:
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #16
yep. Trust me ive seen this trick done before, lol he had everyone thinking he was really fast before he was REALLY fast. Ur talking a quick 1/8 mile running like a corvette or something. and when the engine gets souped. then look out.

I honestly dont know where to start with the engine though.... Heads? Boaring like yours? Intake like yours? idk?

 

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Reply #17
If you're gonna drive it on the street...avoid the mini-spool...

Get a Traction Lok.

Also, I'd probably go no more then 3.73 gears. Until you get a good engine built than can handle higher rpm's, the bigger gears will just be a waste of time, money, and words typing about it...all they'll do with stock-sized tires is push your power band up a few hundred rpm...and with a stock HO, you don't want that. If you have an SO, it'll be even more silly.

Corvettes and 1/8 mile?

That's about like Ferrari's and gravel roads :hick:

Get good tires first, learn to launch with stock power...then start adding goodies, and the like.

Quad shocks are what you refer to...unless you're laying down more than 250 pound feet of torque, I wouldn't worry about that yet.

Get some TC sway bars, good bushings (not stock), and new shocks/struts, and you'll feel like you're in a whole new car.
Throw some TC springs under there while you're at it.
That's a good starting point.

Just don't do like I did, and do the rear stuff first...made the front disastrously loose. In fact, I'd probably put the front bar in, and learn the car, then the rear, and get a feel for how each piece changes the balance. Better to "feel it out" with low power, than to have a lot of horses on tap and learn it.

If you want a rear TC bar, I've got one I'll let go really cheap...I may have a front bar as well-I need to look to verify though.

But really, if you can't get traction now, tires ARE the first logical improvement.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #18
isnt a boar some type of wild animal?
1979 Ford Fairmont
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Reply #19
A mini spool is fun for the first five minutes, but then as you try to navigate the parking lot and you can't make a turn without chirping the tires (and wreaking havoc on you rear axles and carrier) you start to think this might not have been the best decision.


If your looking for advice you are at the right place these guys have had years of prctice building these cars. But if you have already made up your mind that your going to do whatever you want to do no matter what anyone else says. Then that is your decision to make.

Either way I wish you the best luck you can have with your ride :D.
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Reply #20
Well i have to say yes in my day i did light to light racing but i quit that awhile ago. So please take it to the local track. Thats the best place for racing not side streets! Im sure we all would like to see ya around here for a few 10 or so yrs so please take it to the track. you could kill yourself let alone someone elts if you lose control of the car.
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Reply #21
well My dad is the one influencing me and he is used to circle dirt track racing, and a good friend of ours told me that even if you cant afford the big stuff yet, if u want that little extra push off the line to make people THINK you have it, get some gear under that ford! lol i just said mini spool because i thought they converted it to posi-trac....

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Reply #22
Full locker and don't look back.

To hell with a mini spool or a spool unless it's a dedicated track car that sees almost zero street duty.
Too much gear is worthless on a motor that won't do much past 4500 RPM.

CHE makes some VERY good control arms for these cars and they are worth 10X the investment IMHO.

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Just don't do like I did, and do the rear stuff first...made the front disastrously loose. In fact, I'd probably put the front bar in, and learn the car, then the rear, and get a feel for how each piece changes the balance. Better to "feel it out" with low power, than to have a lot of horses on tap and learn it.

Big bar in back + little bar up front makes for oversteer hijinks in parking lots :hick:
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--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #23
I don't want anyone to think the car is fast if it isn't. That's for posers.I'd rather have people think the Sport isn't fast....when it really is.Circle track stuff isn't always great on the street in a daily driver.It is probably a good idea for you to do a lot of studying and learning about these cars,and what actually works well.People here have had a lot of experience with these cars,and know what works,and what doesn't.Learn from other people's mistakes so you don't make the same mistakes and waste time and money on useless "upgrades".If you plan on doing an H.O upgrade,and suspension upgrades,I'd quit thinking about how to make the current drivetrain "appear" to be quicker,and save the money and do it right the first time.Listen to what people are saying.As I stated above,there's a lot of experience here.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #24
We got a young one trying to learn.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #25
We all have to start somewhere.....hopefully not the hard way.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #26
Why would anybody want their car to "appear" fast when it isn't? You'll still lose no matter what you race against with a stock motor.
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Reply #27
The Sport has layed the smackdown on quite a few local Stangs because she looks nice,but not necessarily fast.I don't want to advertise it as a fast car.It's a lot of fun to see their faces ...Priceless. LOL.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

snow tires

Reply #28
first of all, there isn't much difference in hardness between brands:
snow tires have more void (space between lugs) so there is actually
less rubber touching the pavement. take a durometer (hardness
tester) and measure hardness between brands, there isn't nearly 1-2 points difference. tread blocks dictate traction, the more sipes:
more biting edges in wet or snow, the best dry tires have less sipes
or cuts in the tread blocks. best advise: weigh the car, then set air
accordingly - tire baron

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Reply #29
Quote from: daminc;314686
Why would anybody want their car to "appear" fast when it isn't? You'll still lose no matter what you race against with a stock motor.


Because he's 16 yrs old, maybe??
1979 Ford Fairmont
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