How do i get this sucker off?

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How do i get this sucker off?

March 16, 2008, 04:56:36 PM

Managed to break the plastic taking the valve cover off.

I've got the bolts out, I've hit it a few times with a BFH... Whats the deal here? Hit it harder? :hick:

I'm going to need to grab a replacement at the junkyard, So i'm going to need to be alot more careful getting that one off...
Any Ideas?

(And ignore the grime... I'm in the process of cleaning everything up, It's a filthy beast)

How do i get this sucker off?

Reply #1 – March 16, 2008, 11:02:41 PM

just plug off the vac line going to it. bad design and yes, it is hard to rotate.
Would have been best to soak some wd 40 on it for a little while first.

If and when you change it out, please post pics of it. I never figured out how it comes out. IT appears the lower part that rotates is pressed in from the botton,,,under the intake. its like a two piece mount,,hard to explain.

Its probably pressed in from the top but flaired at the bottom. you just have to take the intake off to see what i mean. I gave the fugg up and just plugged the blk/org vac line.

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Reply #2 – March 17, 2008, 12:05:05 AM

hmm,
I just looked through my haynes and chiltons manuals, and stumbled on a short but hopefully helpful tidbit in the haynes, under "Rocker arm removal and installation" of all places. :hick:

"Remove the bolts and swivel the exhaust heat control valve 90deg counterclockwise"

I'll try it out tomorrow.

***Bleh, Says in another area "Swivel it out of the way".
Hopefully the sucker will come out, It bugs me when i have things that don't function staring me in the face...

Have you seen it from the bottom of the intake jcassity? or has anyone else?
I'm really hoping the whole unit unscrews or something.

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Reply #3 – March 17, 2008, 01:02:01 AM

you would think its farily obvious ive seen it from the bottom of the intake after i describe what i saw,:flame:
but anyway, same goes for what i mentioned.,, If you get the thing out pls explain how you did it.

My thoughts when running into that same instruction in my haynes and after having difficulty getting it out, leads me to believe its pressed.

after my 3.8 rebuild , i studied it some more and its confussing. The very reason they say rotate it 90 deg out of the way vs using the word "remove" it might tell us its pressed and flaired.

I dono,,you'll be the first.

How do i get this sucker off?

Reply #4 – March 17, 2008, 01:35:26 AM

Blah, Looks you've already been through ALL of this with no success... My chances are slim. :hick:

I'm having a hard time accepting they put a part on that cant be replaced though... It's so... Stupid...

If it is flaired at the bottom, you could try and grind it so it will slide out~But you would have to do this with a JY replacement as well... and it's all just a royal pita.

I have no plans to remove the intake manifold any time soon either, heh.

I'm sure i'll just end up capping mine off also.

How do i get this sucker off?

Reply #5 – March 17, 2008, 07:37:25 PM

Woo Hoo!
Got it off.

I had to pound on the thing to even get it to swivel like the book said...
I grabbed a solid long piece of wood and chisel pounded it counter clockwise, After it broke free and moved i noticed it had raised from the intake...
After trying to pry it up, wiggling it, trying 360 spin outs... lol.
It didn't want to lift out much higher.

Then my dad comes out with a letter from my friend (he's off in navy seals training), And i tell him about the whole ordeal with this sucker and he straight up bends the thing downward, so now the pin is free from the spring loaded part of the HCV, and lifts it right out!

I'm like... WTF! lol. Thanks dad.

I'll post pics soon.

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Reply #6 – March 17, 2008, 09:54:13 PM

Pics:

And this is how the letter from my friend was delivered to our mailbox... wtf?:

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Reply #7 – March 17, 2008, 10:10:18 PM

when i pulled my intake manifold off my 84 mustang v6 to change the gasket i had no trouble removing the heat control valve before i removed the manifold by first swinging it all the way to the left and then to the right and then pulling it up. this was with the CFI and ISC removed first. i would not say it just "popped right out" but it did not feel like it was pressed in like a bearing or something to that extent. my guess is carbon build up holding it in around the bottom of the plunger.
i broke the tip off of it when i accidently dropped it right after:hick:
the one in i got from the junkyard to replace it with came out without bending or mangleing it by doing the same thing.

if it gives you that much trouble to remove it its would probly easier to take off the intake manifold and fiddle with it off the car, probly a good time to change your manifold gaskets too(about 5 bucks)

How do i get this sucker off?

Reply #8 – March 18, 2008, 12:14:58 AM

I can assure you this will be the first and last time we see this kind of stuff. No one has ever posted pics of this success story before.
For that matter, I cant remember anyone explaining how it comes off but now we see.

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Reply #9 – March 18, 2008, 01:42:15 AM

thats weird, i was unaware it was such a deal for people to get it off

all i can say for certain is you definately dont have to bend it and pop the plunger off as the only way to remove it,but if it works then:hick:

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Reply #10 – March 18, 2008, 01:24:01 PM

Quote from: Ductape91;209633

thats weird, i was unaware it was such a deal for people to get it off

all i can say for certain is you definately dont have to bend it and pop the plunger off as the only way to remove it,but if it works then:hick:

Ok cool, I'll try that at the junkyard (Unless anyone knows where to get them new?).
Mine was heavily gunked up with carbon and junk, So that's probably why i had such a hard time budging it.

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Reply #11 – March 18, 2008, 08:16:12 PM

hmm, im sure i saw a new(ish) one at the junkyard maybe i should try pulling it and see if i have a hard time getting it off.

Argh

Reply #12 – March 22, 2008, 10:55:17 PM

Bleh...
Just got back from the junkyard.

They only had one 3.8 with this thinger on it, Surprisingly it was an '85 LTD, And had the same engine as a T-Bird.
And to make things worse, IT BROKE!

The thing was more stuck than mine was, I tryed hammer tapping it loose like i did with mine, And the sucker broke into 3 pieces.
It broke at the base, the thick bolt down area.
It broke enough i was able to bend and get the top part of the assembly off... Kinda hard to explain.
I'll post pics here soon.

I think i can fab up a good one~between what i have of my broken one, and the broken one from the 'yard.