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My 5-Lug plans (um, back to 4-lug!)

Reply #30
Quote from: Cougar5.0;187446
Wow - you are amazing. Looks like I need to make some calls tomorrow and make a decision! Thanks a lot!


Happy to help. :)
That is what this board is all about right?

Just be prepared to pay more that what Summit is charging you for the 3 they have in stock. They are discounting them heavily to get a discontinued wheel out of their inventory.
There is a good possibility that whoever you get the 4th wheel from is going to have to pay more for it from American plus there could be applicable freight charges involved too.

Personally, if it was me, and the price was right, I would buy all 5 so that I have a spare just in case something were ever happen. ;)

Good luck!

Brent
:cougarsmily:
1985 Mercury Cougar XR-7 - 5-speed 
One of 1,246 built

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Reply #31
Quote from: BCA;187450
Personally, if it was me, and the price was right, I would buy all 5 so that I have a spare just in case something were ever happen. ;)


exactly what i was thinkin as well. :hick:
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

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Reply #32
Got all 5 - the price was fine from the AR dealer too so I'm happy and it's worth the gamble. I may have to use a 5/16" spacer on the front so that would help alleviate a possible hub cover to center cap interference issue (& hitting strut obviously). I ordered 17" drag radials for the back - I almost wiped out passing a soccer MILF in a mini-van the other day as the tires started spinning @ 60 MPH! The wheels will probably look py on the car - lol!
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Reply #33
wicked! now you can keep all your built up 4lug brake stuffs, and still run your gold turbines if you want.
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

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Reply #34
Yes, I'm kind of relieved. I was obsessing a little over the 6" backspacing, but really since the 25mm offset is the same as stock, so long as I use similar section width tires, all should be fine. I've already used 275/50/15 drag radials that have about a 11.1" section width on 8" 25mm offset rims in the rear so the 295/24/17 drag radials on a 9" rim should be about 11.2" section width - nearly the same. On the front I am thinking of using a 235/45/17 to gain a little on the width and height, but I've read that 245/45/17 might look/fit better.

Any opinions on this?
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Yikes!!!

Reply #35
YIKES!!

Marginal fit!

Here is the side view;


Here is how far the rim sticks out!


Here is top view:


There is 1/4" clearance to strut which is fine, more than that for the tire section width (3/8"?). Can turn the wheel stop to stop without issue due to Cobra "D" arms in front. Hub is an issue and will need my "custom" touch to fit - oh, well.

Should I even bother to mount tires as I am slightly illegal? Should I go with 235 or 245 cross-section - I think either will fit but the 245 may hide the edge view of the rim better.

Any opinions out there?
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Reply #36
Quote from: Cougar5.0;188069
Any opinions out there?

What size wheels are these?

I can't see the pictures, since IT blocks all the photobucket domain (rendering most pictures on this forum useless).

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Reply #37
They are 17 x 9 with 25mm offset. They are the right offset but the rim sticks out a little more than the old 225 tires as they were 9.625" cross-section (just measured) and the rim is 10". I can use a tire up to about 10.4" max cross-section, but I would prefer 10.3" or under. Any help appreciated as I am looking at getting some tires!
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Reply #38
Put a tire on it then look at it,i did the same with my 18x9s and 10s and they didn't look like they would fit but they fit perfect.
It's very misleading with just the rim.

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Reply #39
Quote from: dominator;188076
Put a tire on it then look at it,i did the same with my 18x9s and 10s and they didn't look like they would fit but they fit perfect.
It's very misleading with just the rim.


I am just concerned about the tire hitting the surround at the top of the strut. I could trim that a bit as it is plastic - I just was wondering if a 245 would have wider than a 10.3" section on a 9" rim. Based on some calcs I did it should be fine (~10.1"), but I just want some reassurance before I have a tire mounted. The 235 would give me more clearance from hitting the fender (as I am lowered), but I have heard people say they look too narrow on a 9" rim. Still looking for tires :D
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Reply #40
I would suggest going to each tires website that you are interested in and getting an actual section width from there. Most have a chart. From past experience, I don't like a 235 on a 9".
Jim

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Reply #41
Yeah, I've done more research and there's no way I'm going with a 235 on a 9" rim.

It looks like a 255/40/17 will fit and look good at the same time. The 0.3" smaller radius (than stock 15" tires) will help keep the tire off the fender when driving over the bridge construction around here too. Since the 255 is based on a wider fitting rim (8.5"), it will only be a little wider in the section (~10.25") but will look a lot better.

Edit: you were right Jim, the Falken FK-452 that I want has a 10.3" section width listed for the 255/40/17 using a 9"!! measuring rim on Falken's web site. This is a perfect fit for this application. I will be ordering these tires now as NTB didn't have them in stock even though their web site said they had a set at my local store. I'm getting psyched.

Now to do something cool for the center-caps on the front. I think a little boring and grinding are in order :D
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Reply #42
Well, the 255's were hard to find and I realized that the tread would stick out quite a bit (tread width is 3/4" wider that 245/45) so I went with the 245/45/17's. They don't seem to stick out much, but they really rub the fender too easy - I'm really bummed.



Worst picture ever:



I know my camber appears to be the wrong direction so that may be something to look into. I am a bit annoyed right now :(
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Reply #43
Nothing worse than getting done a project and being bummed about it. Where is it rubbing?
Jim

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Reply #44
If I take a slight right hand turn and there is uneveness to the road, it ****ing rubs. The marks on the tire and sound location say it's just simply hitting the fender. This is the famous drivers side tilt coming into full play here - passenger side - no rubbing.) My head is about to explode! The damed tires are hardly any bigger than the 225/60/15's I had on there (in theory), but they look quite a bit bigger side-by-side (can tread wear make the old tires look that much smaller?)



The camber adjustment is on the most outward rivet, but it does appear that I already have a slight amount of negative camber. How much negative camber will those two holes give me? It will have to help keep the tire off the fender somewhat. ARRGGHH!! :(:(:(
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