HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 August 05, 2007, 03:13:39 AM I don't know if this has been done before, I found this purely on my own kind of by accident.On 5.0 SEFI cars the fuel lines come off the frame rail on the passenger side in front of the tire. On 87 88 TC's ( and other years i'm sure) the hard lines end under the steering shaft on the driver side in the area of the booster. Complete opposite sides of the engine bay. Now what do you do if you can't find a suitable donor car for v8 lines? While checking out a vehicle at the junkyard for parts on another project I found this.Enter a 5.0 truck/van fuel rail. The truck fuel lines come up under the booster, the same spot as a TC. The hard lines are the same fittings as well. Here is the fuel rail on my 5.0. Notice the lack of entry point.Here is the entry point. On the backside of the engine on the driver side.This rail places the FPR under the intake kind of tight but this wont be an issue, I'll explain in a minute.Here is the issue. The passenger side rail is double stacked. The car rail isn't like this. The truck intake is high enough to clear but the car intake is not. the bottom of the intake hits the rail. Solution... 1/2" intake spacer, a good thing either way. So with this spacer it will give the room the FPR needs. The schrader valve is in kind of a better spot. With the required intake spacer and probably a 45 or 90 degree elbow the gauge would be in a good viewing spot. Another bonus, the stock lines that connect the fuel rail the hard lines on the rail are braided stainless. These lines connect right up to the TC hard lines. :hick:There you have it, an easy way to deal with a hurdle presented when swapping the half motor. :D Now get to it! Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #1 – August 05, 2007, 03:36:05 AM im lost a little bit because im not sure if your saying these are the fuel lines you want for a 2.3 or what. Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #2 – August 05, 2007, 03:59:43 AM what is that fuel rail off of an explorer? or an 80's crown vic / grand marquis? just about all but not all of them.. the fuel rails for a 5.0 from the 80's had the regulator and the fuel lines on passenger side Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #3 – August 05, 2007, 04:09:49 AM That is the truck fuel rail mocked up on my 5.0 HO. Its a 94 E-150 rail, notice the two bolt regulator. This is my solution to the fuel line delima when swapping a 5.0 into a TC. I have an 88 TC and a 5.0 HO and a truck fuel rail to make it work.You guys didn't read the whole thing did you? The answers to both your questions are in there...... Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #4 – August 05, 2007, 04:21:15 AM Yes they are...Or you could flip the intake around like on the trucks or crown vics... Or so I thought... I think I mentioned that in a thread or two, but I never had a way to verify it. I think it would be cool to have an intake flipped around on the other side. Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #5 – August 05, 2007, 04:51:11 AM Good info... I used a '87 5.0 Bird pressure line and a modified(shortened) return line... Quote from: Haystack;166142Yes they are...Or you could flip the intake around like on the trucks or crown vics... Or so I thought... I think I mentioned that in a thread or two, but I never had a way to verify it. I think it would be cool to have an intake flipped around on the other side.With the correct fuel rails it's easy enough to flip, just have to have proper throttle cable and a TB to match the hookup... No the std TB cannot be used without modifying the arm... This is mainly why you don't see many flipped, as most(if not all) aftermarket TBs are for passenger side use... Except for the '93-'95 Lightning 65mm unit, all the factory driver side TBs suck... Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #6 – August 05, 2007, 10:43:19 AM Quote from: CougarSE;166141I have an 88 TC and a 5.0 HO and a truck fuel rail to make it work.You guys didn't read the whole thing did you? The answers to both your questions are in there......oh i read it ,, a couple times.Your last statement helped "getting it to take though":D in a one liner,,,,,, When swapping 2.3 to a 5.0HO, use the 94 Truck or van engine fuel rail so your existing chassis fuel lines are compatable with fittings on the driver side.really good info and pic. this is a "save as":D Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #7 – August 05, 2007, 11:22:16 AM good info Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #8 – August 05, 2007, 11:38:12 AM The years of fuel rails are two bolt and three bolt FPR respective to mustang rails. Now one thing to watch out for the three bolt rails have the fuel return coming out of the regulator at a 90 degree angle instead of the 45 my rail has. Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #9 – August 05, 2007, 12:48:04 PM Great tech !!! That'll come in handy for those who figure out a V-8 really IS better than a 4 banger (just kidding you turbo 4 lovers......just kidding).LOL Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #10 – August 05, 2007, 01:45:59 PM As I'm tackling this project I'm looking for ways to make swapping a 5.0 into a TC cake. I've got a few other things that I haven't revealed yet I wasn't going to mention this but the board has been pretty dry in the tech department so I thought I would throw it a bone. Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #11 – August 05, 2007, 02:00:09 PM Quote from: CougarSE;166186As I'm tackling this project I'm looking for ways to make swapping a 5.0 into a TC cake. I've got a few other things that I haven't revealed yet I wasn't going to mention this but the board has been pretty dry in the tech department so I thought I would throw it a bone.While I'm sure there are some shortcuts, I for one doubt it could ever considered "cake"... Too many wiring changes to ever make this a simple swap... I went to lengths to try to make mine as "factory" as possible... Local race car builder(hard core Ford man) looked at it and said he'd never know it wasn't factory... Tom Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #12 – August 05, 2007, 08:14:30 PM Oh wiring is cake! :) Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #13 – August 05, 2007, 08:37:35 PM Quote from: CougarSE;166254Oh wiring is cake! :)For you, me and a few others, but it's mostly a nightmare for those who don't understand sparktricity... :hick: I ran KOEO codes on my system before I ever installed the engine, had all the sensors hooked up laying on a box in the engine compartment... Had a fuel pump (was disconnected), and tranny selector(had none) codes... Quote Selected
HOW to use TC fuel lines when going 5.0 Reply #14 – August 05, 2007, 09:18:00 PM i vote for a sticky asap!im gonna put this in my DIY link if you dont mind. Quote Selected
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