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Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

I found a TC with an auto floor shift and the gears read 123ONRP
 
I think the car is an 87 or 88
 
Any idea what tranny that would be?
Would that tranny handel a 5.0 HO and is it any better than an AOD?
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Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #1 –
A4LD.I really don't know if it could handle a V-8's torgue.One of the TC guys may know.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #2 –
no way in hell!!! They can't even barly take the 2.3 if you baby it with the 2.3 yea they take it, both autos my dad bout were blown. Build the aod if you dont want to switch to a 5 speed.
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #3 –
Daboss said it right on the money - the A4LD was a weak tranny (the LD means Light Duty) that couldn't handle the power a 2.3 Turbo dished out (which is why the automatic TC was detuned to 155 horses, VS 190 in the 5-speed). Won't bolt up to a 5.0 anyway...
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1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #4 –
and even with 155 hp it still rips them apart!
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #5 –
Hang on, I'm confused. Is the engine on the Auto's detuned? I was under the assumption the 190 horses are still there, but can only be unleashed when a 5-speed swap occurs.
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Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #6 –
The engine is detuned. More conservative ECM tuning w/ limited boost, mainly, but I think (but certainly not sure) the IHI is actually smaller on the autos as well
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #7 –
the computer is different, not sure what else was done, i think that is what took it back.
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #8 –
It's ECM/Boost controller ONLY. Bypassing the BCS with a Gillis at 13-15 psi puts the auto's right back to 190. The IHI's are the same. The wastegate actuator is different (7 psi bypassed with no valve vs 14 psi on the 5-speed) and where the boost/power difference comes from. I had a rebuilt A4LD with a aftermarket torque convertor, big @$$ cooler, and shift kit and it lived 100,000 miles behind 17psi.

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #9 –
So.. What part of the linkage, Console, Shift Handel, etc. (Obviously NOT the tranny itself) would aid me in changing my Column shift to Floor shift?
 
JUST the black console?
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Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #10 –
Pretty much. I will have the entire floor shift setup out of my Sport for sale soon.

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #11 –
A 5 speed TC will run and boost to 15psi on the A4LD processor, been there done that...

I believe the only actual difference is the bleed orifice, to the wastegate that's larger... Bypassing the BCS and connecting the lines together on the turbo will net approx 12-13psi on a automatic TC(been there done that as well)...

My automatic IHI went on a 5 speed TC(complete with wastegate) and it would only boost 8-9 PSI, till I swapped the fittings...

Automatic Turbo Coupe 123O

Reply #12 –
Quote from: Jim_Miller;142866
So.. What part of the linkage, Console, Shift Handel, etc. (Obviously NOT the tranny itself) would aid me in changing my Column shift to Floor shift?
 
JUST the black console?


I've been through this when I built my 87 TC 460 and wanted to modify the factory TC shifter to use with the C6.

Too much hassle...ended up putting in a new Hurst Promatic ratchet shifter. Well worth the money.:D
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