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3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #15
Quote from: jcassity
Is it just me or does the intake look useable on the 88 and up v6's?,,, im sure the bolt pattern on the intake to heads are the same so it would make a nice mod for the 88 and up 232.

The split port intakes will not bolt up to single port heads.

Quote from: Chuck W
DIS is pretty easy to convert to from TFI.

I take it that you can only install DIS on non-SEFI TFI motors? Does the DIS module take the CID input and PIP input and give a "modified" PIP output to the EEC? All DIS EECs have a CID input so the EEC can know where #1 is w/o the narrow vaned PIP signal.

Quote from: Chuck W
EDIS is a different beast and can be done, but will require a bit more in-depth research on the wiring.

I believe you must have an EEC that is set up for EDIS to run EDIS. The EDIS needs a SAW input that only an EDIS EEC can provide.

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #16
Right, the EDIS requires a different ECU and uses the PIP/SAW instead of the PIP/SPOUT.

The DIS and TFI PIP/SPOUT are the same with the DIS using the crank sensor to locate the #1. 

With the appropriate crank trigger/sensor, you can swap the TFI for the DIS.  Did the TFI to DIS swap on the 2.3T motor that went into my Ranger a couple years ago. 

I want to run EDIS on the X-Flow.

Anyway, I'm guessing that motor you have was EDIS due to it's age., but I could be wrong.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #17
Was your 2.3T batch fire or sequential?

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #18
The 2.3T's batch fire 2 injectors at a time.

EDIT that...now I don't remember.  It's batch fire though....
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #19
Ok, that is what I thought. Hmm, time for DIS on my CFI 3.8 ;)
If only it worked on sequential injection. :(

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #20
Quote from: JeremyB
Ok, that is what I thought. Hmm, time for DIS on my CFI 3.8 ;)
If only it worked on sequential injection. :(

'88 3.8s are batch fire, same as the 2.3...

Now wheather this makes any difference to the discussion I don't know, I kinda breezed through it...:D

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #21
JCass,

Man, this sounds like a fun project!

Chris
"I put my foot in my tank and I began to roll." Chuck Berry

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #22
Well,, the good news,,

IT all bolts together incase anyone ever runs into a 4.2L.  Rods, pistons and crank.

Bad News,,,,
My JY doner is going to over reach the bounds of common sense with all the machine work needed. Every single bearing was spun on the rods/crank.  The crank did not spin the two middle ones with the girdles.  It even spun the two center cam bearings.  The whole block was contaminated and the crank had bearing parts up inside it.  A couple rods have bearings welded to them as well as the sides.  The machine shop says its probably gonna need each rod cleaned up to the point were it wont last too long due to excess side play.  On top of all that, the crank would need to be turned to a point that made me wonder just what the hell im doing. 

Its not worth it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so...........

I move on to the 306 install :D its not a total loss,,,just a waste of money and time but oh well.

 

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #23
guess you know why it was in the junk yard. sucks man. i was hoping to see some good numbers on this and see what kinda street manners it would have.
trick flow street heat intake , 24lbs injetors, ported GT-40's (Chip) long tube headers. and a Performance Automatic C4, with a hurst shifter!

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #24
If anyone out there is interested,, i have all the parts to do this and just be advised the crank needs machine work but if you dont mind atleast 30 over,, then its yours.  The rods good but id suggest getting them broached.  the pistons are all good and the block bores still had cross hatch markings.

STEEL crank/rods/pistons,,, up for grabs. plan on a couple hundred bux for work done and that would be cheap. 

It happens that the 64mm throttle body would be nice to ,, i had a plan for that but i like the windsor duel TB for a later project.

Far more expensive would be the ablity to secure a donor 4.2.  A crank alone without core is nearly 350 bux.

interesting thing i found out,, speaking of 4.2L.  The 1982 mustang had an optional 4.2L available.

These parts are free, you pay shipping.  I wanna see this happen to someones 3.8, id prefer a CFI to get woke up but thats up to what you have already.

the parts are still salvageable, ive probably just made it seem worse than what it really is.

Chirs,,,
this would be a nice addition to all the top end work you have done already.

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #25
Quote from: jcassity
The 1982 mustang had an optional 4.2L available

That would be the shiznitty 4.2L V8 i've got in my tbirds
1980 birds X 3, 1982 bird, 1984 XR7, 1988 TC

3.8L stroker in process (NOT HAPPENING)

Reply #26
Quote from: tbirdscott
That would be the shiznitty 4.2L V8 i've got in my tbirds


then you would be short two cylinders if you think its a v8 project,:rollin:


To all,
The 4.2 rods can not be broached.  The caps are broken off during manufacturing and each cap matches only one rod.  There is no way to duplicate the break and still be able to broach.  In otherwords, if the bearings are spun, best case is to broach them and oversize the rod bearings.