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dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

when i sit at an idle for any time and i put it into gear it dies. I did a tune up about 5 months ago and i think the wires were not on right to begin with and i might of messed some  up. i need a piture of the way they should be or a detail easy explaination of who to fix it. 86 5.0 not h.o.
1986 Cougar LS

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #1
Does it back fire or idle low?
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I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #2
It idles at about 900 to 1000 in park and neutral and at is in between 600 and 800 in gear. im going to try and take all the wires off and but them back on like the are in the diagram.
1986 Cougar LS

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #3
It could still be a number of diffrent things. Like the TPS(Do a search it will come right up) or IAC.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #4
haystack do you have a diagram for a 91 tbird 3.6 or do you know where i can get one. thanks

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #5
Firing order for the 3.8 is:  1-4-2-5-3-6
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dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #6

that was a two second google.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #7
NEVER follow those diagrams. If the distributor has been removed, if the timing has been adjusted, or anything, the diagram will be off.

Hell, the one from the haynes manual for my 3.8L was completely wrong.
It's Gumby's fault.


dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #9
I checked the wires according to the diagram and they are correct. when i frist start it and leave the end of my street i push the gas and its like it struggles to moveor like it isnt getting spark and wants to die if that helps
1986 Cougar LS

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #10
i think the distributor has  been replaced when the old lady had it before me. she got screwed over by the shop she when to many time so who know if the mess something else up when they did that
1986 Cougar LS

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #11
Plugged up exhaust? Potato in the tail pipe. Cat converter plugged up.

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #12
No potato. how could i tell if the cat is clogged?
1986 Cougar LS

 

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #13
Quote from: Tbird232ci
NEVER follow those diagrams. If the distributor has been removed, if the timing has been adjusted, or anything, the diagram will be off.

Hell, the one from the haynes manual for my 3.8L was completely wrong.


Hm.  The relative position of the distributor shouldn't acutally effect the firing order any, should it?  Unless the cam has been swapped to something which requires a different firing order, can't you just find TDC for #1, find the tower that points at, and key off that?  I mean, sure, the distro might not be oriented exactly like the picture in the book, but that doesn't mean the firing order in the book is on drugs..

dies at idle and think the wires are on cap wrong

Reply #14
A symptom of a clogged exhaust would be low manifold vacuum. But the only way to tell for sure is to disconnect it.
You could also have very low fuel pressure. Clogged filter maybe.
Timing being way retarded would also give the same symptoms. Timing chain jumped over a tooth.