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E4OD Will it Fit?

Just as the title asks, will an E4OD fit under an 87 TBird? I am getting a 97 302 Mustang engine that an associate had in his F-150.
He said he would throw in the tranny seeing as how he has no use for it. It was just recently rebuilt so I know it is good. So, what do you guys think?

Gurahl

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Reply #1
I thought 95 was the last year for a 302 in a mustang?
87 T-bird two tone diarrhea color. 5.0 converted with AOD.  GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
 
94 Lincoln Towncar, Dark Metallic Green, 4.6L AOD
SOLD!!!!
 
99 Mercury Cougar. V6 MTX75 Trans. CURRENT PROJECT DAILY DRIVER.

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Reply #2
Quote from: Master_xzavior
I thought 95 was the last year for a 302 in a mustang?



It was.
Project 3G: Grandpa Grocery Getter-'85 Crown Vic LTD 2-door, 351W with heavily ported/polished GT40 heads, heavily ported/polished Typhoon Power Plus upper & lower intake, Comp Cams 265DEH retarded 1*, FAST EZ-EFI, HD T5, 8.8" 3.73 trac lock with extra clutches, 3G alt. swap, '99 CVPI front brakes, '09 CVPI rear disc brakes, '00 CVPI booster&m/c + wilwood adj prop valve.

Parted & Gone-'88 T-bird Sport, 351W swap, ported GT40 heads

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Reply #3
If it's a 4.6 tranny the bellhousing will not bolt to a 5.0.  I'm not sure if the E4OD  bellhousing is removeable or not.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #4
tom would prolly know,....
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #5
Isn't the E4OD a big block auto trans? I thought they were bolted to 460s?
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #6
After talking to the guy he says that it was a transplant engine in the 97. The E4od is a truck tranny that was used in Bronco's and trucks. I was just wondering if it will actually fit the bird.

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Reply #7
E4OD does not have a removable bellhousing.  Not sure if the E4OD came behind a 460 or not, but if it came behind the 7.3L deisel, I dont see why it couldn't be behind the 460....  However, it is one big  transmission, and I doubt you could fit it in a car.  Besides, the E stands for electronic, so how would you control it in your '87 'Bird?
Matt :tg:

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Reply #8
Quote from: slowfoxbird
E4OD does not have a removable bellhousing.  Not sure if the E4OD came behind a 460 or not, but if it came behind the 7.3L deisel, I dont see why it couldn't be behind the 460....  However, it is one big  transmission, and I doubt you could fit it in a car.  Besides, the E stands for electronic, so how would you control it in your '87 'Bird?


Bingo.... I wasn't aware they were used behind 5.0 even in the F series(but I don't know it all). They did use the AODE and 4R70W behind the 5.0. The 5.8 did get E4ODs, I have one in my '93 Lightning and a buddy has one in his '94 5.8 F-150. As slowfox says "they are  big transmissions", and you'd need the P/U EEC to shift it cause it is electronic... Unless it is a mass air truck, better forget it, cause the batch fire EECs on the speed densety systems will require a lot of rewiring to get the injectors firing correctly. It is based on the old C6, probably could be made to fit, but there will surely be linkage, crossmember and driveshaft issues.

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Reply #9
Quote from: TurboCoupe50
As slowfox says "they are  big transmissions"

Yes they are, and heavy as hell.
The new guy had to pull one out of a 95 F-150 with the 5.8, and me and him could barely lift into the back of a customer's truck.
(which incidentally, we had to pull his truck home, on account of the trans in his truck was DOA, hence his buying the one that the rookie pulled..)

Anyway, I'll give a rough guess and say that one of 'em weighs around 250-275 pounds...how close am I, anyone know?
With torque convertor, btw...
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #10
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek


Anyway, I'll give a rough guess and say that one of 'em weighs around 250-275 pounds...how close am I, anyone know?
With torque convertor, btw...


Well,.....  I am not a big guy, 5'10", 145lbs, and only lean muscle mass, no bulk here, but if I can wrastle one end of one of them there is no way its 250.  Prob closer to 150-175 drained.
Matt :tg:

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Reply #11
The E4OD is a C6 with an extra gear. It's heavier than an AOD, but I would guess by only a few pounds. Expect it to be longer than an AOD and larger.

B&M (and maybe other manufacturers) make a stand alone shift controller that will operate it. I investigated it to go behind the 460, but they're not that durable, and to get one built well, it would cost a HP rebuild + the controller, which I wasn't willing to invest at the time.

 --Ed
"1FSTCAT" - 87 Mercury Cougar XR7, 5 Speed, Powerdyne Supercharger.

"NTRCPTR" - 91 Crown Vic Police Interceptor - 460 POWERED. 14.15 @ 97 MPH, untuned.

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Reply #12
My dad has been wondering about an OD trans for his 86 F350 diesel. The three speed auto with 4.11 gear is killer on mileage.
93 Festiva L, 193k miles, BP+T/G25MR swap, T3 50trim .48/.42, SRT FMIC, Capri electronics/Rocketchip, 2.5" exhaust
bests: ET 12.86, MPH 110.25, 1.92 short
02 Subaru Impreza WRX, 129k miles
97 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport, 236k miles

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Reply #13
Quote from: slowfoxbird
Well,.....  I am not a big guy, 5'10", 145lbs, and only lean muscle mass, no bulk here, but if I can wrastle one end of one of them there is no way its 250.  Prob closer to 150-175 drained.


YOu are joking? I am 6'4", around 250lbs at the time, and me and my buddy couldnt quite lift one aod out. Man you make me feel like a woosie.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #14
i'm 6' even, and 160, and can almost deadlift an AOD by myself, but i'm tellin ya, an E4OD is rather heavy, to an AOD...
Believe me or no, but I work ever day on engine and tranny installs, and I've pulled a few of the trucks trans. for customers, I cant pull an E4OD alone out in the yard...way too heavy.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)