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Toyota sucks

Everytime I read about the quality of Toyota better than any of the Big 3 makes me puke, Toyota is in better position because the american market is like a bitch with the legs open everybody comes in, Why dont puppiesan opens there market and let the big 3 enter to their backyard ?:flip:

Toyota sucks

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Quote from: cougarpower51
Everytime I read about the quality of Toyota better than any of the Big 3 makes me puke, Toyota is in better position because the american market is like a bitch with the legs open everybody comes in, Why dont puppiesan opens there market and let the big 3 enter to their backyard ?:flip:


Evidentally you never owned a Toyota. They dont break as often as American cars do. No matter what you are buying, people have the power when it all comes down to it.

James

Toyota sucks

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Someone been drinking a little bit tonight..? :p (besides me, that is.. heh)

Toyota sucks

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Evidentally you never owned a Toyota. They dont break as often as American cars do. No matter what you are buying, people have the power when it all comes down to it.


Unfortunate to say I owned a 2001 Toyota Camry new from the dealership and I had to take that car about 4 to 5 times in the first year because of the check engine light and had some problems starting in the morning and you call that quality :evilgrin:

Toyota sucks

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Quote from: cougarpower51
Unfortunate to say I owned a 2001 Toyota Camry new from the dealership and I had to take that car about 4 to 5 times in the first year because of the check engine light and had some problems starting in the morning and you call that quality :evilgrin:


Thats it?:giggle:

James

Toyota sucks

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I love Toyotas. I think they're great cars.
In fact, some of the most reliable cars are built by Lexus.
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Toyota sucks

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Toyotas are very well built, but very boring. Ever since the Supra died Toyota has no exciting products. Quality aside, they're the GM of asian manufacturers.

One of the big differences between Toyota and the domestics is how they handle problems. When Ford finds out about a design problem (such as peeling paint or 3.8 head gaskets) they first deny it exists, then end up in court, and then end up with some half-assed settlement to remedy the problem (only fixing certain models, certain years, etc) and then they do everything they can to hide the fact that the settlement exists so as to prevent a lot of people from even knowing about it. This  customers off, they will never buy another Ford, and they tell their friends of their shabby treatment.

Toyota, on the other hand, admits there's a problem (such as the 3.0 V6 head gaskets), makes every effort to repair the problem without going to court, and ends up with happy customers that will buy more Toyotas and tell theior friends about how well they were treated.

Whether the quality gap between puppiesanese and domestic manufacturers is real or only perceived, a great deal of the problem is how the customer is treated. If the manufacturer/dealership treats the customer well the customer will act like there was never a problem to begin with, and they'll tell everybody how good their car is. If the manufacturer/dealership fights the customer at every step, the customer will not only be mad at that particular problem, he will likely pick every other little squeak and rattle apart.
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Toyota sucks

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Whether the quality gap between puppiesanese and domestic manufacturers is real or only perceived, a great deal of the problem is how the customer is treated


How the customer is treated is a quality issue in itself.;)
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Toyota sucks

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I can tell you from experience, that Toyota treats their customers much better than Ford, GM, or Dodge. I own an 05 F150 and its been in for numerous major problems, including master cylinder failure, tire replacement, leaking brake fluid, engine ticking/vibration, and the list goes on. Fords quality and customer service have gone down the drain. Toyota implements many quality assurance processes to seek to eliminate defects and also improve customer relations. Ford is simply relying on repeat buyers loyalty, which is quickly fading. My mother owns a toyota, and it just runs no matter what. The F150 is Ford bread and butter, and to me they have dropped the ball. Sad to say, but with as many plants I see closing left and right, the days of Ford on top are ending. The older Fords have my respect, but these new POS's really suffer on quality. Ford simply cannot afford to put money into quality assurance and customer support when the majority of the money goes to assembly line workers making $28/hr, the UAW have really caused the fall of the big 3. You wont see Toyota paying that sort of money and benefits to their employees, and look who makes a beter vehicle. Sorry guys, buts its common sense, and Im just as much a Ford fan as the next man. I realize this site is mainly liberals, but when the union causes the company THAT WRITES THE CHECKS to go under, guess who suffers?
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Toyota sucks

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Even those of us on the left can have a problem with Unions. ;)

Toyota sucks

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Quote from: oldraven
Even those of us on the left can have a problem with Unions. ;)


Werd :tg:
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Toyota sucks

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yep...nobody is perfect. im in a union but im deffinetly not pro union. i can live with that. fords quality does kind of suck. my dads 05 explorer has 4wd issues as well as other tranny issues and the dealership kind of dances around the fact that there is anything even wrong. fine if its one truck but his 03 ranger was the same way. ford rebuilt the tranny for him instead of just replacing it and it failed again. all within 20k miles with no abuse whatso ever (drives like a grandpah). when he brought the explorer in ford told him that there is a tranny fluid additive that was supposed to go in those trannys from the factory but never did. they also said it was no big deal....lol either way they want him too wait till the tranny is pooched.
 
i cant think of 1 new ford id buy now. used id consider an 0304 cobra or mach1 and even those have their issues....
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Toyota sucks

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Quote from: shame302

i cant think of 1 new ford id buy now. used id consider an 0304 cobra or mach1 and even those have their issues....


Right, because you'd keep those issue causing parts on there for very long anyway, when there's something out there to replace them that also makes the car go faster. :D

My dad has an 04 Avalanche and it has ben to the dealership on a few occasions for minor things like alignment, some defective moulding, and to get a roof rack.  None of these were really huge hindrances, and the truck is still under warranty, so they pretty much just did all the work for free.  They were really cool about it to.  I think a huge factor is also how tha dealership is run, because my dad has never had any problems.  Now if the tranny goes out, god forbid, we'll see how they still treat him.

Toyota sucks

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Quote from: Thunder Chicken
Toyotas are very well built, but very boring. Ever since the Supra died Toyota has no exciting products. Quality aside, they're the GM of asian manufacturers.


No exciting products? Tacoma, Tundra and 4Runner. When was the last time (in USA) that auto manufacturor offered a rear locking differential for their trucks? Toyota started it in the 90's. No other company even offered it(maybe now, but not sure). If your not into trucks, I can see where you are coming from but they are far, far from GM it is not even funny. If the Supra wasn't so expensive I would have that instead of my Mustang.

I will take a Toyota over just about anything when it comes to reliability.

James

Toyota sucks

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My mother windstar has had steering problems eversince that accident in Flat rock 3 years ago. If you take the wheel to either the extreme left or right it will humm like a puppieseenese w. Everytime we take it to Mathews ford they always send it back with a clean bill of health which is bs there is something wrong. And on the union thing yea look at Gm and sh*t with all the people that are retired and they are still carrying on thier backs, when they retire i say cut em off or send them a lesser pension.


If either of these new asian monsters come true a new skyline Named the Nissan GTR or the new evo actually come out and have balls i would buy either concidering price.