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Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

I had a feeling my trak-lok was about shot (has 150K on it after all), tried it out toward the end of this last summer and yep, the pass. side rear tire lays rubber but the driver's side rear just leaves a dusting.

I'm betting it costs a small fortune to get one of these things rebuilt. Am I right?

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
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Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #1
well, if your comfertable with it do it yourself. or you can get some new clutches and pack em if the gears are still good. and dont forget the friction modifier. i got a truck diff 31spline for like 150 new

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #2
Well honestly...messing with gears/stuff in the diff kinda scares me. I guess because it seems easy to screw stuff up. Building an engine was less intimidating :shrug:

I also don't like the fact that with a floor jack there isn't much room under there to work...

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #3
thats kinda what i thought, but my axle was also out of the car, but ford motorsports stuff, like a ford truck diff, and ford gears all use the same size shims and such, if your using ford gears on a ford diff, its basicaly a direct swap,  just take your ring gear off, and put it on the new diff. then slide the whole assembly in. hardest part is getting the diff back in... expecialy if its under the car lol.

i have no idea how much a rebuild costs, but i assume its less than the truck diff i got. im sure if you call napa, pepboys, or advance auto or even look on their site u can get a price easily. you still got to take the diff out, hardest part is getting everything back together sence its all held in with that s clip. their are some walk threws on alot of the mustang boards. just be careful if you do remove the dif, put the spacers on the sides back where they go, left and right, and those main caps go on the left and right to so they should be marked if removed.

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #4
Actual FRPP rebuild kits are around $60. Getting mine redone in the convertible next spring; already have the kit. May also go with 4.10's, don't know yet.

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #5
does that come with enough clutches and disks to pack em? just curious...

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #6
I think so...never opened the box, to be honest. I picked it up for $45 at a swap meet a few years ago.

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #7
Just get a Torsen T2R and be done with it. It won't wear out after 10,000 miles. You also get constant axle side-play, it doesn't increase as the T-lok clutch plates wear out.

Did I mention it costs >$600? :D

There are a lot of Traction Lok rebuild how-tos on the web.
Here is a good one...clicky

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #8
I reclutched my T-Lock back in early '01 and its been fine... It really isn't a big deal, you don't need to disturb the ring or pinion at all. Just remove the axles, "S" clip, spider gears, and start pullin out the clutches and steels. Reverse to reinstall and use the thickest shims that will still let the center pin slide back in(with a little hammer help).

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #9
my nieghbor, a mustang guy, helped me rebuild one in my first tbird. i cant remember for the life of me exactly what we did but the frictions and steels ended up getting stacked together differently and an extra shim, steel or friction (cant remember wich) was added to each side to make it ungodly tight.
 
hows that for a run on sentance.
 
anyway...it worked pretty much like it should and never failed. i beat the  out if it too.
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Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #10
Quote from: TurboCoupe50
I reclutched my T-Lock back in early '01 and its been fine... It really isn't a big deal, you don't need to disturb the ring or pinion at all. Just remove the axles, "S" clip, spider gears, and start pullin out the clutches and steels. Reverse to reinstall and use the thickest shims that will still let the center pin slide back in(with a little hammer help).

Sweet! I thought you had to completely tear down the rear to replace the clutches. LRS sells a kit for like 60 bucks to replace the clutches. But i think i read somewhere about what shame302 was talking about...stuffing an extra shim and friction in:dunno:
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Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #11
yeah it goes from friction steel steel friction, to friction steel friction steel ect. when i did it on mine, i took it out. as did my friend. probley because both of us were doing other stuff in their also...

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #12
If you gotta pull the axles...well, at some point down the road I'd like to convert my car to 5 lug (SN95 brakes probably). So, might as well just wait and do it when I do that.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #13
Quote from: shame302
my nieghbor, a mustang guy, helped me rebuild one in my first tbird. i cant remember for the life of me exactly what we did but the frictions and steels ended up getting stacked together differently and an extra shim, steel or friction (cant remember wich) was added to each side to make it ungodly tight.
 
hows that for a run on sentance.
 
anyway...it worked pretty much like it should and never failed. i beat the  out if it too.


This is a good point... Although I reassembled mine to orig, it is possible to alter the "stack" and get a extra clutch in each side. I believe there is info on the Stang  web sites to show the best procedure.

BTW... The total cost of my rebuild was about $65... $50 for the clutch kit(which included the friction modifer), and the remainder for synthetic gear lube...

Poop...how much to get a trak-lok rebuilt?

Reply #14
Here's the text to the link I posted. (Since nobody has read it) ;)

Quote from: MFE
Here's my writeup. Let's put some search terms in it for the next 100 people:

Tlok t-lok trac-lok trak-lok trak-loc diff differential rebuild

It helps if you have a good manual but the instructions that come with
the kit are pretty good. The part number is F5AZ-4947-BA and it’s generally around $70 or so at Ford dealers. You may be able to find it cheaper on the net. Get about 3 quarts of 80w-90 gear oil. If you use synthetic you probably shouldn't use much friction modifier. If you want absolute max trak-lok action and are willing to put up
with some unsettling noises from the rear end, don't use any modifier at all. It just makes the clutches more slippery so they don't chatter. I chose to use half a bottle the last couple times and I'm glad I did since this is my daily driver, autocrossed and dragraced for fun. Anyway, here goes.

1) Jack up the rear end and support with stands.
2) Loosen the diff cover bolts, removing all but the top two so you don't take a gear-oil bath
3) Pry the cover loose and drain the rear into a pan.
4) When threat of bathing is gone remove the top bolts and pull the cover off
5) Se/wipe out the bottom of the diff.
6) Now is a good time to soak the new clutch discs in friction modifier, the need to soak for 20 minutes at least. If not friction
modifier, at least gear oil -- you don't want to put them in dry
7) The shaft going through the center of the diff is called the pinion shaft. It's got a lockbolt on one end. Undo the lockbolt and push the shaft out. You’ll only want to push it in a little bit so you can still rotate the assembly and pull it out toward you. There isn’t enough clearance to push it all the way through or to turn the assembly if you’ve tried.
8) Remove the wheels and brake drums, leave the other brake hardware alone. Push the axles inward, and you'll see the c-clips that hold them in place. Remove the clips and pull the axles out gently -- don't torque the bearings on the way out and don't let the axles hang, just remove them.
9) Get a grip on the s-spring and pull it out. You may need to punch it with a hammer to get it started, and keep a  good grip on it when you remove it you don't want it zinging around.
10) The gears you see are the pinion gears and the side gears, called spider gears. Rotate things until the spider gears pop out, then pull the pinion gears out too. Inspect for damage.
11) Now you can simply slide the clutch packs out, use the tabs on the plates if necessary. Make sure you get them all out including the shims.
12) Reinstall the clutches and steels in the proper order, using a shim at least as thick as the ones you removed. You want to use the thickest shim you can while still being able to get the spider gears back in. Forget about using the set-up tool and all the special measurements, if you can get the spider gears back in you're all set. Note: Each clutch pack is made up of a series of Frictions and Steels and in the factory order they go F-S-S-F-S-S-F. However, if you re-use the best two of your old Frictions in place of one of the new Steels you can re-stack them in an order that makes the diff lock better, which is F-S-F-S-F-S-F, which is the same number of total elements. You may have to trial assemble it a couple times to get the right shim so it's just loose enough to get back together, barely.
13) To get the gears in, it helps to have a helper turn the now-temporarily-installed driver's side axle while you lock the passenger-side pinion gear in place. The spider gears will squeze into place. They are perfectly aligned when you can get the pinion shaft back in.
14) Re-install the s-spring. Or don’t. It’s only there to help in really really low-traction situations. Leaving it out will not hurt the locking power of the unit under normal conditions. Getting it in, if you choose, can be a *****. Try holding it against its slot with a pair of channel-locks to get it squeezed down a bit while prying it in with a piece of 2X4 using the swaybar as a fulcrum. Alternately, do the same but whack it with a mallet. It should pop in. If it doesn't, try using a 1-1/2 inch hose clamp to squeeze the spring so you can insert it. Then cut the clamp and slide it out.
15) Re-install the axles by pushing them all the way in, installing the c-clips, and pulling the axles back out against the clips which are now recessed in the housing and locked in place.
16) Reinstall the pinion shaft and make  sure you put it in the right way so the new lockbolt can be installed. And do not use the old lockbolt.
17) Use gasket maker on the diff housing and reinstall the cover.
18) efi85gt posted a terrific tip for filling the diff. Forget the fill plug. Let the rear end drop as low as you can and remove the little vent cap on the top of the right side axle tube. Clean the area around it carefully and you’ll be able to fill it through this hole with a fraction of the stinky mess you get when you use the “fill hole”. Looks like this: http://www.corral.net/photopost/dat...baer024-med.jpg

But you should still remove the fill hole bolt so you know when to stop filling, which is as soon as it starts to come out that hole. Wipe the tip of the bolt off, it's magnetic and the silvery paste is metal shavings.
19) Fill the housing until it comes out the fill hole and replace the plug.