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HELP.my car wont stop!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #15
I join the pack and say you  got a bad M/C or a leak. I put three M/C on my 84 T/C before I got a good one. everytime I had soft pedal. The last one I got great pedal.  I get real good pedal as soon as I touch it. Ofcorse I did put greade to the bigger 86 Crown vic M/C. Need to get the spindles, calipers ,and rotors. But she stops like never before.
84 Turbo coupe 2.3T Modded with 88 upper and lower intake, 88 injectors, E6 manifold, T3-4 AR.60 turbo, 31X12X3 FMIC, Homemade MBC , Greddy knock off BPV.
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HELP.my car wont stop!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #16
Well,I replaced the booster with one from a 90 5.0 Mustang,adjusted the actuator rod, and road tested......I Got Brakes now!!!!

  I'm replacing the stock 60mm calipers with 73 mm from an SVO, and I should be able to stop on a dime.

  Thanks all for all your help!!!!!

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Reply #17
Cool, glad you got it sorted.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #18
Quote from: revnkvn
I have 73mm caliper I will be using with an adjustable prop valve.i'm still going for the 5.0 booster.
 I am not loosing fluid, and do not have air in the lines.with the car off, i have a rock hard pedal,start it up....very soft,but does not go to the floor, just more than my mustangs do.



That's the same thing mine does. I ditched the busted ABS master cylinder on my turbo coupe and went to a 1" bore Lincoln Town Car MC & 5.0 Mustang booster, and I put 73mm calipers on the front (kept the stock prop valve since the car is already four wheel disc). When I bleed the brakes I get a nice firm pedal, but when I start the car it gets very soft. The brakes still work quite well (hell I was coming home from work one night and some deer were in the road, and I was surprised at how well the brakes hauled the car down), there's just a lot of travel before it really starts braking and it takes some getting used to.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
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Reply #19
Quote from: revnkvn
  I'm replacing the stock 60mm calipers with 73 mm from an SVO, and I should be able to stop on a dime.

The only data I've seen shows that putting a 73mm caliper on with stock drums in the rear increases stopping distance.

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Reply #20
Quote from: Red_LX
That's the same thing mine does. I ditched the busted ABS master cylinder on my turbo coupe and went to a 1" bore Lincoln Town Car MC & 5.0 Mustang booster, and I put 73mm calipers on the front (kept the stock prop valve since the car is already four wheel disc). When I bleed the brakes I get a nice firm pedal, but when I start the car it gets very soft. The brakes still work quite well (hell I was coming home from work one night and some deer were in the road, and I was surprised at how well the brakes hauled the car down), there's just a lot of travel before it really starts braking and it takes some getting used to.


If you are using the 73mm front caliperswith the rear disks, you really should use the SVO M/C(with the 1 1/8" bore) on the car.  The 1" bore works stellar with the 73mm fronts and rear drums (I have used that combo 2-3 times), but it's just not enough for the disk/disk combo.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #21
Well shoot. I was gonna get the SVO MC, but on that 73mm.cjb.net site he says you don't need the SVO master unless you're running 73mm front calipers and upgraded rear calipers (like the cadillac ones you can use with adapter brackets).

Well, maybe I'll try throwing a SVO one in there in the spring, since I can get one for $35 or so.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

HELP.my car wont stop!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #22
D'oh...
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #23
Quote from: Chuck W
If you are using the 73mm front caliperswith the rear disks, you really should use the SVO M/C(with the 1 1/8" bore) on the car.  The 1" bore works stellar with the 73mm fronts and rear drums


Quote from: Chuck W
I still would not use the SVO ....the bore is a bit big.
One for an '80 Lincoln Mk6 has a 1" bore....



OK Chuck, make up your mind...:slap:

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

HELP.my car wont stop!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #24
Quote from: Red_LX
OK Chuck, make up your mind...:slap:


Duh..brain fart.....

For some reason when I replied the second time I was thinking you had rear drums...:shoothead

Yes, in your case, I would try the SVO master, esp since you have a bit much pedal travel.

Sorry for the mix-up.....
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #25
rules of thumb....

too soft of a pedal - too big of a caliper
too hard of a pedal - too big of a master cylinder

you guy are on your own from there.:D

i use a SVO master cylinder, SVO/5.0 brake booster, stock 60mm front calipers (for now), and stock 9" drums in the back. the pedal on my 86 is kind of firm (not like manual brakes, but firm). i did tis for a couple of reasons.
- allows me to upgrade to 73mm calipers alot easier.
- allows me to stay front disk or 4 wheel disk.
- master cylinder give me more room for the engine and adjustable firewall clutch cable.
So you have a V8.......isn't that cute.