I hate cars...

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I hate cars...

August 28, 2005, 11:52:50 PM

Ok, so I'm getting the front back together right, and I've got everything, and yes I mean everything, back together, and guess what... my tie rod ends come up short. Short as in 1"+ short on each side. I can't have both wheels facing straight.

:flame:

So I've been reading around, and it looks like people on corral who have had the same problem ended up getting a bump-steer kit. Anyone ever used one? How much more adjustment out would it give me? I'm looking to make up at least an inch, maybe 2. I'll measure it tomorrow, but i'm short by a bit.

Any ideas for solving this problem would be great, I've asked all my local sources of info.

:flame:

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Reply #1 – August 29, 2005, 01:01:29 AM

did you use a mustang rack or inner tie rods?

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Reply #2 – August 29, 2005, 03:11:40 AM

dude did you use SN 95 stuff if so then you have to use SN95 stuff if you look in cougarnuts arcives there should be a thread when will did his convertion..

well i did some searching and there are threads about it but i think i remember we resolved this over the phone..

anyway if you did use SN 95 stuff you need to use SN95 inner tie rods ,sleaves and outer tie rod ends

that will give you that extra inch or so that you need. the reason why you need use all SN95 stuff is because the sleave threads are diffrent. but the treads on the inner socket to the rack are the same as a fox.. any other questions let me know..

and just to make sure try and touch base with will..

Nick

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Reply #3 – August 29, 2005, 10:01:25 AM

Well I've looked at the outer tie rods, and they're shorter then the fox ones I have.

I used a manual rack off of a 84 mustang.

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Reply #4 – August 29, 2005, 05:28:57 PM

Well I compared inner tie rods for SN95's and Foxes today at work, they have the same threads but are 2" longer, I'll see how that goes... Now all I need is endless time to work on this thing.

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Reply #5 – September 05, 2005, 11:18:14 PM

Well, so far I've tried to have the tie rods modified to fit the rack, but the machine shop warned me that they couldn't tap the insides of the inners to fit the existing rack, and modifying it to fit the rack could possibly damage the tie rods in some way. He also said by the time I modified those inners, I could have bought the right parts to fix it permanently. So I just ended up calling Maximum motorsports and ordering their Adjustable outer tie rods (which is also a bump steer kit).

Just imagine the guy on the left is another 160 bucks.

:(

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Reply #6 – September 06, 2005, 12:20:31 AM

What exactly was the problem? As Blown306Cougarsaid, SN95 inners bolt right up the Fox racks. SN95 inners/outers would have solved your problem.

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Reply #7 – September 06, 2005, 09:17:41 AM

I got sent an e-mail a few months ago that the threads going into the SN95 inners are metric. Couldn't verify it, but after talking on the phone with David, this seems to be the case. The Fox steering shafts are standard, the SN95's are metric. The only solutions I could come up with were 1) have the SN95 inners machined/tapped for the standard thread, or 2) use a bump steer kit. Seems like #2 won.

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Reply #8 – September 06, 2005, 09:25:53 AM

As far as I know, all Fox/SN95 racks use SAE threads. I've read dozens of cases where people have put SN95 tie-rods on Fox racks. It is std. procedure for the 5-lug swap. Maybe he has a freak rack.

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Reply #9 – September 06, 2005, 10:48:45 AM

I would agree with you Jeremy. But it looks like there is some kind of problem with something along the line. In years past the inner tie rods were so expensive that it was actually cheaper to replace the entire rack. Seems like the prices have come down...David said he only paid $10/each for the inners, so it's not like he's out much money. Eh, what do you expect...everything from parts stores is made in China nowadays. :(

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Reply #10 – September 07, 2005, 10:20:46 AM

Why does everyone keep talking about SN95 parts when David said,

"I used a manual rack off of a 84 mustang."

? Just wondering...

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Reply #11 – September 07, 2005, 11:41:02 AM

I missed the post where he mentioned it was a manual rack. The only reference I've found regarding SN95 inners and a manual rack is here (post #3). As David found out, the manual rack and power rack have different rack-to-tie rod interfaces.

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Reply #12 – September 07, 2005, 07:45:10 PM

Well there's another problem completely, I bought the rack, cracked one of the inners off to see if I could replace it with the SN95 inner and it didn't thread on. So I went back, purchased a fox inner, and that didn't thread onto the rack either. So I ended up returning all those inners and warrenty swapping the rack out so I could get an inner tie rod that fit.

Getting good at swapping the rack though....

I ordered a set of "longer" tie rods from Maximum motorsports with the adjustable sleeve on the outers, with the bumpsteer kit and the tapered bolts. 160 bucks! I really wish those inners would have worked

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Reply #13 – September 10, 2005, 02:18:08 PM

Ok yeah..... This just gets better and better....

If you believe in a higher-being, he must hate me...

I ordered those Maximum Motorsports outer tie rods, and they don't thread onto the inners. As far as I've seen on every part fox mustangs have to offer, all the inner and outer tie rods are exactly the same thread.

This is freaken rediculous, why they would send me outer tie rods with different threads from ANY fox inner ties rods is completely beyond me...

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Reply #14 – September 10, 2005, 02:20:52 PM

Hell... they're different than any MUSTANG inner tie rod thread....