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88 tc help error codes help

I have a code 88 and 85 in my thunderbird turbo coupe after putting the motor in and getting it running and also my firm ride light blinking 3 times

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #1
Codes 84 & 88: I suspect you have lost the power and or EEC connections to your A4LD automatic transmission solenoids.
Don't know anything about your blinking light. Can't find it in the diagrams.

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #2
It's a manual car tho

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #3
Any chance the EEC is for an automatic trans?
Past my bedtime. Goodnight.

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #4
Some Googling came up with these ECUs for 87-88 Turbo coupes:
Automatic LB2-LB3
Manual    LA2-LA3

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #5
So I would need check the code on my computer

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #6
Quote from: kitt2008;453111
So I would need check the code on my computer
That's what I would recommend, if you are not sure what you have.

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #7
It's got a LB3

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #8
That explains the error codes.
I have no idea if that affects the drivability. I think the auto ECU limits the boost so as to not put too much strain on the A4LD.
Don't know if it has any other differences  .

 

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #9
ok since this is a project car and i didnt put the computer in it can you tell me if i go to a junk yard and get a 5 speed computer will it plug and play and get the boost at the 15 pounds thanks for your help i just put a motor in it and now time to chase gremlins

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #10
Yes it will plug and play.
As for how much boost you will get, you will have to wait for someone with turbo experience to chime in.

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #11
The boost is controlled by the waste-gate and bleed through the boost solenoid (controlled by the eec) and orifice in the turbo waste gate actuator itself.  IIRC, auto turbos have the bleed set to allow turbo boost to ~10psi, the manual turbos have a larger orifice drilled in the actuator and allows for ~15psi.  Of course, a ~$50 Gillis valve allows you to bypass the solenoid entirely and control your boost level (plus it allows boost to build at lower RPMs, entirely changing the characteristics of the car for the better...)

As far as codes, the NATO site has a good rundown on what codes mean for the Programmed Ride Control (PRC) in their faqs.  For the eec, the codes may be on cool cats or can be found here by searching, I believe.

Good luck,

Daniel

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #12
BTW, Where in NC are you?  If close to the triad, I may be able to swing by soon with my 88TC to help troubleshoot.

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #13
Quote from: BornInAFord;453120
The boost is controlled by the waste-gate and bleed through the boost solenoid (controlled by the eec) and orifice in the turbo waste gate actuator itself.  IIRC, auto turbos have the bleed set to allow turbo boost to ~10psi, the manual turbos have a larger orifice drilled in the actuator and allows for ~15psi.  Of course, a ~$50 Gillis valve allows you to bypass the solenoid entirely and control your boost level (plus it allows boost to build at lower RPMs, entirely changing the characteristics of the car for the better...)

As far as codes, the NATO site has a good rundown on what codes mean for the Programmed Ride Control (PRC) in their faqs.  For the eec, the codes may be on cool cats or can be found here by searching, I believe.

Good luck,

Daniel


Yep you can just jump the boost controller ports together on the turbo with a short hose and get approx 13Lb boost(at least I could on my white Bird)...

I've seen automatic PCM work fine in 5spd cars, boost was normal AND I've seen other cars the idle was wonky using using the automatic PCM... Note the only auto PCM I'm experienced with is the 8UA which is what was in most '88...

88 tc help error codes help

Reply #14
Ok guys new problem I have a extremely hard break pedal and my abs and break lights are on but I can hear my pump turn on and my relay click any help