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Reply #15 – December 17, 2015, 11:52:26 PM

My beater '96 F-150 5.0 had less than a quart of oil in the pan when I got it... When I drained the oil it made a good splash in the drain pan and reduced to a string, thought oh shiznit I have a burner here... Well oil was so dark it would have made black paint envious, so I flushed it with three odd quarts I had on hand which was at least a quart more than it had prior(filter and drain combined)... Apparently oil had not changed in the last two or three years... The flush oil didn't look much better than first drain, still I decided to fill it and kept a eye on usage... It went 2300 mi before low enough to add and since usage has decreased to approx 3K mi per qt...

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Reply #16 – December 17, 2015, 11:59:29 PM

Oops lol!!!!

I ment to say about a quart a tank, not gallon...

I usually drive about 75 miles freeway 2-3 days a week. I've been using the car for pizza delivery, lots of stops and starts, not much actually warmed up engine time and haven't been freeway driving much.

If i beat on it, it will eat a quart in 200 miles though. I drive when something is bothering me and i can't sleep. There is a terrific little road with a 55mph speedlimit a few miles outside of town, middle of nowhere. I can beat on the car inside of the speed limit with tons of steep hills and slopped curves and rarely any traffic. I usually do about a 100 mile loop and blast the tunes. Really makes me feel better for some reason.

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Reply #17 – December 18, 2015, 08:37:04 AM

Reminds me of that 2.3 Fairmont that I used for pizza delivery. I kept one of those 5qt jugs of cheap oill and a funnel right in front of my parking spot. When I'd get home, I pop the hood, dump in a couple'a glugs from the jug. I'd lose a quart every 100 miles or so, all blow-by. Man, that carbed 2.3 was a total pile. It was so slow, I had old men on Jazzy scooters passing me and flipping me off...

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Reply #18 – December 18, 2015, 11:49:19 AM

Jebus people you got some oil eaters/burners. The 157K mile 5.0 HO in my Mark VII uses half a quart of 10W30 over 3k miles, most of it from the weeping rear main seal and pan gasket.

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Reply #19 – December 18, 2015, 01:41:38 PM

Report back when you have another 150k miles on it.

Most of my cars have been in the 200k range when I got them.

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Reply #20 – December 18, 2015, 05:46:34 PM

I can't honestly say I've ever owned a personal driver with over 200K mi on the clock, AFAIK my '96 F-150 is tops at 186K mi(even none of the dozen plus TC I've owned had over 175/180K)... Interesting thing about my F-150 is it's yet to drip anything...

Most cars & light trucks from the '50s thru '70s were pretty much shot to hell by 125K mi, not till EFI and O/D trans did the big mileage start becoming common....

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Reply #21 – December 19, 2015, 03:10:01 PM

The red car needs a quart every 1500. Maybe even 1K. Granted if I'm in the thing I'm accelerating hard everywhere, flashing the converter constantly, etc. Has 150K on it.

Pretty sure for a lot of vehicles (maybe not within the last 10 years) 1 qt every 1k miles is the "acceptable oil consumption" spec from the manufacturer.
My daily, '87 Grand Marquis. Naturally, elderly owned, plenty of evidence that they kept up on things, that uses a quart every 1500-1700. Ever since I bought it, with 65K on it.

Old coworker told me a story of one of his coworkers when he was in TX, 1997. Last year for that body style of the F250/350, 7.3 Powerstroke. Brand new. Guy was using 1 qt every 1K. Dealership said "Sorry, that's at the upper spec limit, it's still OK". Guy used TX lemon law and made them take it back or maybe had the engine rebuilt. He was furious but apparently that was acceptable as per the factory. And he prompty jacked it in the air and threw big tires on it the second he bought it. So he was almost stuck since he modified it but I guess they caved anyway.

My silver cougar...that GT40 setup motor I don't think that EVER burned or leaked a freakin' DROP. I forget why I had to steal the dipstick out of it, but I plugged the hole with a bolt and silicone. Decided I wouldn't bother checking the oil. But I trusted that thing, and my trust was never betrayed. The P.O. had talked about him and his dad having piles of 302 parts. I think they went through a couple engines in the car. So that thing must be pretty fresh, and maybe with better rings.

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Reply #22 – December 29, 2015, 06:34:55 PM

Quote from: thunderjet302;452996

Jebus people you got some oil eaters/burners. The 157K mile 5.0 HO in my Mark VII uses half a quart of 10W30 over 3k miles, most of it from the weeping rear main seal and pan gasket.

My Mark cracked 156K as of today. Little weepage at the rear main. Doesn't burn a drop. The Cougar doesn't lose any either, but that's got relatively low miles on the motor.
The Mustang has 20K on it....I've never noticed any appreciable loss in oil on it, but I change it every few months regadless and there are oil change intervals with less than 200 miles so.....

Stacks, I can say with confidence that a car from the northeast and midwest with 150K on it is akin to 250K in most other parts of the U.S.

Lou's within 20 miles of Chicago, I'm about 20 miles outside of NYC. Traffic, roadsalt, road conditions that make third world countries look good..... Outside of taxis, I can't think of too many cars from up here that have over 200K, save for my Cougar (which isn't a daily and I've pretty much completely restored) or the world record holding Volvo (he lives about 20 minutes from me, and most of his mileage is out of this area).

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Reply #23 – December 29, 2015, 11:42:37 PM

Quote from: V8Demon;453130

My Mark cracked 156K as of today. Little weepage at the rear main. Doesn't burn a drop. The Cougar doesn't lose any either, but that's got relatively low miles on the motor.
The Mustang has 20K on it....I've never noticed any appreciable loss in oil on it, but I change it every few months regadless and there are oil change intervals with less than 200 miles so.....

Stacks, I can say with confidence that a car from the northeast and midwest with 150K on it is akin to 250K in most other parts of the U.S.

Lou's within 20 miles of Chicago, I'm about 20 miles outside of NYC. Traffic, roadsalt, road conditions that make third world countries look good..... Outside of taxis, I can't think of too many cars from up here that have over 200K, save for my Cougar (which isn't a daily and I've pretty much completely restored) or the world record holding Volvo (he lives about 20 minutes from me, and most of his mileage is out of this area).

The Thunderbird doesn't use but maybe an ounce or two between changes at around 2k miles or so (134k on the body but around 16k on the engine). Both the Mustang and the Focus use about the same amount.

I actually live in the City of Chicago proper, albeit a quarter mile from the city border. My wife and I commute to the downtown area for work five days a week. Between the crazy traffic and, uh, "road conditions" cars really get beat up by the 100k mark. Especially the suspension.

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Reply #24 – December 30, 2015, 01:02:30 AM

What's really funny to me, I've almost always been lucky with relatively rust free cars. I'd bet we use more salt here then most places. We pump salt water into sprinklers onto the highways, straight from the lake. In bad rain/snow storms, we actually get salt rained down on us from lake effect weather. Utah has some very interesting weather. This time last year it was 50-60° highs and rain. This year it's been 6° lows and mid 20's for a high.

We do have very little humidity though. Rain storms are rare and we sometimes go months without rain. I think that has a much larger impact on rust then the salt we use.

I know this car leaks oil, but I'm not sure how much. The saftey standards in this little town I live in are so lax, I passed saftey last month and had a rubber brake line blow out two days later. They advised me on blown front shocks (4th year in a row) and a power steering leak. Haven't bugged me about the broken windsheild washer resevoir once since I've owned the car.

It's actually really nice to take your car in for a yearly inspection and not get harassed about broken vacuum lines or a bypassed smog pump.

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Reply #25 – December 30, 2015, 10:55:19 AM

Quote from: Haystack;453135

The saftey standards in this little town I live in are so lax, I passed saftey last month and had a rubber brake line blow out two days later. They advised me on blown front shocks (4th year in a row) and a power steering leak. Haven't bugged me about the broken windsheild washer resevoir once since I've owned the car.

It's actually really nice to take your car in for a yearly inspection and not get harassed about broken vacuum lines or a bypassed smog pump.

My insp station knows I'll take it back home and fix the problem so never opens the hood... They'll check wipers, lights, horn, defroster operation(VA is big on that), brake pad depth, ball joints and for looseness in steering... $16 please, NEXT!!

I did get canned back in fall for low pad thickness on rear of the '98 Grand Marquis(car had just turned 69K mi), and I figured he was shiznitting me but BION they were low... Went ahead and replaced both ends but the fronts still had probably 25K mi before they'd actually needed replaced...

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Reply #26 – December 30, 2015, 10:01:35 PM

Illinois doesn't have "safety inspections". All they do in the Chicago area is conduct emissions testing 96 and newer cars (only OBD II cars are emissions tested as 95 and older cars are exempt). The rest of the state doesn't even have emissions tests.

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Reply #27 – December 30, 2015, 11:27:28 PM

My car would technically be emissions exempt in the rest of the state now with antique plates, but it would kill me to only put 5k a year on it.