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Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Hello,

I am having an issue concerning the fuel gauge/sending unit. I'm not sure what's wrong, but it's not reading accurately. I wait until I'm almost empty before I go get fuel. When I fill up, the pump shuts off after 6-7 gallons has gone in. I try to manually pump it in, holding the lever, but it keeps shutting off, like it's full. When I turn the ignition on, the gauge will go all the way to FULL, but then go down a little. I can usually drive about a 150 miles before the gauge reads almost empty again. Then the whole thing starts over.

My question: Is the fuel gauge bad, or is it the sending unit? Since it never reads FULL, how far can I go (approximately) after the gauge reads Empty (since it's not accurate)?

Also, has anyone else had this problem with their Fox Bird/Cougar?


Thanks!
Cornfed85

1985 Thunderbird - 3.8 V6, C5  :ford:  :birdsmily:

 

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #1
My 88 TC is very sensitive to the angle of the car when being filled.  If I park moderately downhill at the gas station, I usually can get 3-4 more gallons in the tank than when filling the car on the level or nose slightly uphill.  I actually choose what station and pump I get fuel from based on this quirk.  I think the problem on mine is the sleeve or lining/coupler (?) of the filler neck has slipped down into the tank a bit, and so allows less fuel into the tank before shutting off unless I angle the tank down.  Weird.

Your sending unit may also be at issue, but IDK.  Try filling while parking downhill?

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #2
My cougar reads accurately to half a tank and has a few dead spots where it will read empty past that. I just set the tripe and refill between 350-400 miles.

IM sure mine is the sender because the temp guage seems to read correctly.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #3
your sender in the tank needs to come out,,,
you can read it with a meter and move the arm and see where the wiper arm on the variable resistor part might be corroded.

the variable resistor part is dirty or has contact issues.
there really isn't anything else that can go wrong with them other than this.

you should be going about 350miles on a tank of gas for the 3.8L average case.


now in my case,, I walk out of the garage, I come back and my 4 and 6 year olds at the time are fighting over the fuel sender playing tug of war with it..... so to this day I have no clue what the angle of the float rod needs to be till I get a replacement.

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #4
Thanks guys! I'll have to drive for a while before I can drop the tank. I just filled up yesterday.
Cornfed85

1985 Thunderbird - 3.8 V6, C5  :ford:  :birdsmily:

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #5
It could simply be the float has fuel in it and has jacked up the buoyancy. Anyhow, here is a really good thread with all kinds of good info on this very subject:

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?33063-1983-Thunderbird-fuel-level-sender/page2

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #6
Quote from: 1985Elan;438960
Thanks guys! I'll have to drive for a while before I can drop the tank. I just filled up yesterday.

sure you can
on your connector up where you pull codes inside the engine bay.......... find the tan/light green wire......

undo the supply fuel fitting which I believe is the drivers side rear of the CFI

ground the tan/light green wire
undo the fuel supply line
extend it with a rubber hose,

turn key forward only! and the fuel pump will run constantly.
you can fill up another car, fill up several gas cans ect.

that's the nice thing about these cars, you can get a couple gallons of gas pretty easy if you know what your doing.

once the tank Is empty, turn off your key and connect stuff back up. undo the ground jumper from the tan light green wire and ~~~ in the words of Tom Renzo... "That's how its dun!!"
:)

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #7
I noticed that my Temp gauge starts to climb and at the same time, my fuel gauge starts to climb.  I was told that there was a resister that looks like a 9 volt battery that is connected behind the dash gauges.  I have a 1985 T-Bird and have tried several times to find or reach that resister.  Does anyone know where it is located on my car?
Thanks

Fuel gauge/sending unit issues?

Reply #8
Check your ignition switch. My tbird did this, I could leave with 1/4 tank and within an hour of driving it was past 1/2. It ended up being a corroded and loose ignition switch.

There is a ivr that regulates voltage to the dash. It should limit voltage to around 5v's to make everything read accurately. I've personally never had one go bad out of 11 cars now.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com