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88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

hi guys,

I just bought a 88 Cougar XR7.  I dont know why the dash doesnt work.  It has the fully electronic dash.  The check engine light will come on, as will the parking break light.  I have no speedo or tach tho! Please help!

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #1
all the bulbs burnt out in the cluster?
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88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #2
Quote from: daminc;413028
all the bulbs burnt out in the cluster?

 
I dont think so.  I looked at them all.  But seriously even in the sunlight I can see anything!  They dont even appear to be working.  I checked the fuses, all fuses are good.

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #3
Is there a control module for this electronic dash? or a relay?  do i have to open up the back of the dash to get to lights inside? or is it just the turn bulbs outside the edge of the back of the module?

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #4
No, it has all electronics built in the instrument cluster.

It seems you don't have power going to your dash.

Here is the wiring diagram for full electronic IC.


Check volatage on inputs 14 (R/Y, fuse 18), 16 (LB/PK, fuse 17) and 18 (LG/Y, fuse 8).

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #5
You should really grab my 88 EVTM.  I personally think that it is a must have if you own one of these cars.  You can get it from the link in my signature, or from the link in Trinom's signature.  Good luck.

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #6
Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;413055
You should really grab my 88 EVTM.  I personally think that it is a must have if you own one of these cars.  You can get it from the link in my signature, or from the link in Trinom's signature.  Good luck.

 
got it thanks! i really want to figure this out!

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #7
okay... So I basically cheated.  My alternator was not charging at all because it was getting 0 signal from the green wire... The one that apparently comes from the dash...

So I clipped it into the hot wire next to it that runs 12v.  This made the alternator charge like it was supposed to.. So that is done, I get in the car and notice I can almost make out the gauges.  They are working...

I drive around and find that the gauges turn off and on at will. 

I replaced the ignition relay and this seems to help. 

BUT I have to have the key turned exactly right to have the gauges, turn signals, and heater/ac blower work.... 

Any advice?  The gauges are very hard to make out.

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #8
Quote from: mtflyboy25@gmail.com;413123
okay... So I basically cheated.  My alternator was not charging at all because it was getting 0 signal from the green wire... The one that apparently comes from the dash...
The voltage is supposed to come from the IGNITION SWITCH and go through the alternator warning light on the dash, and then on the green wire to the Alt. regulator.

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So I clipped it into the hot wire next to it that runs 12v.  This made the alternator charge like it was supposed to.. So that is done, I get in the car and notice I can almost make out the gauges.  They are working...
You need to disconnect this jumper when the engine is turned off, or it will drain your battery.

 

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I replaced the ignition relay and this seems to help.
??? Do you mean the starter relay? 

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BUT I have to have the key turned exactly right to have the gauges, turn signals, and heater/ac blower work.... 

Any advice?
Yes!! Replace the ignition switch before it catches on fire!!

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #9
x2- Bad ignition switches are common on our cars. And when defective can catch fire all by themselves with nobody around.
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88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #10
Quote from: softtouch;413137
The voltage is supposed to come from the IGNITION SWITCH and go through the alternator warning light on the dash, and then on the green wire to the Alt. regulator.

 You need to disconnect this jumper when the engine is turned off, or it will drain your battery.

 

 ??? Do you mean the starter relay? 

 Yes!! Replace the ignition switch before it catches on fire!!



Yeah it did drain the batter... and no i mean the ignition relay.  Its what i bought and replaced.  the 5 pole relay under the steering wheel.

... ignition switch?ok ill head to the local napa lol..

Thanks you guys rock!

 

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Reply #11
Quote from: CoogarXR;413138
x2- Bad ignition switches are common on our cars. And when defective can catch fire all by themselves with nobody around.

 
no kidding?  ok i just replaced rotor,cap, spark plugs, and wires... so ill head to the store now, then do my oil change...

88 XR7 no dash at all help!?!?!

Reply #12
If you can barely see the dash display it means it's working, but the backlighting isn't. This is almost certainly a bad cluster illumination relay, which, IIRC, is in the area behind the radio toward the driver's side. It might also be the halogen bulbs burned out, but this is less likely as there are six of them and sudden failure of the lot of them is unlikely...
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Reply #13
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;413141
If you can barely see the dash display it means it's working, but the backlighting isn't. This is almost certainly a bad cluster illumination relay, which, IIRC, is in the area behind the radio toward the driver's side. It might also be the halogen bulbs burned out, but this is less likely as there are six of them and sudden failure of the lot of them is unlikely...

 
what is the relay called?  i cant seem to find it on autozone.

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Reply #14
Try the ignition switch first. I had this exact problem last year.  My ignition switch had over heated and melted the Gr/Y wire until it pulled back off it's terminal.  I replaced the switch AND connector shell.