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Accel plug wires

I just changed my plugs on the cougar and I'd say the old plugs where at least 10 years old. The car was garage kept but had set for long periods of time. I was checking out the engine in the dark to see if I had any arcing and 3 of the wires along with the distibutor wire were arcing. I think I still have the original ford wires and distributor cap.
I had a friend recommend going to the Acell 8.8 mm wires. He said he couldn't believe the difference in his throttle response. I plan on changing the cap and rotor as well.
Does anyone see an advantage to these over say a set of Bosch 8mm wires?
The price is quite a bit more but I wouldn't mind it if it makes a difference.

http://accel-ignition.com/8-8mm-graphite-custom-fit.html

Accel plug wires

Reply #1 –
I changed out my old 86's "motorcraft 1985" wires and put in some "racing" thick and super expensive wires, and spiffy spark plugs when I was 16. Car had 238k or so on it, and made no differance. None at all. The coil was badly rusting and seperating, and that $20 or so made a huge differance.

There is a place for "good" wires and plugs, but not enough to matter on 90% of cars.I run $1.99 copper plugs and cheapest replacment wires on my cars.
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I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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Reply #2 –
I like the Taylor wires.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #3 –
I run FRPP 9mm custom fits on mine.  I got them when I was running my HO, but that motor wasn't healthy and I didn't notice a difference.  I carried them over to my GT40 setup when the HO came apart, and the GT40 is REAL healthy, but I never ran that setup without them so I can't tell you if they really make any difference on that either.  I will tell you there is a noticeable difference running at 14 degrees BTDC vs. running 10 degrees BTDC (stock).  With that timing and 89 octane I might see a difference in the wires if I ran something else to compare it to, but it's not worth the trouble to me to know.

Accel plug wires

Reply #5 –
What is wrong with stock wires??? Never tested a car that with a wire change made one bit of difference in performance. Either the plugs fire of they dont. Funny i was tuning a TOYOTA Friday and their plug wires are as skinny as PENCILS. They work fine. Save your money and buy a set of MOTOR CRAFT WIRES. THEY WORK!!! Those so called BULLET PROOF wires touched by GOD are just a bunch of BS and a waste of money!!! Just me could be wrong!!!

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Reply #6 –
The last time I used Bosh wires, it made it look like a miniature welder's convention under my hood. Replaced them with the same ones Foe was talking about. No problem since. You may need better than stock if you have an aftermarket ignition system, but otherwise, anything from Ford is just fine. The main thing to remember about spark is it must happen, and at the right time.

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Reply #7 –
It sounds like most don't think the accel wires would do anything more then a set of ford wires.
The thing is if I buy online I can get a set of of 10.8 mm accel wires for about $50, a set of 8.8mm for the same price (different site) a set of 8mm Bosch at autozone for $33 plus tax or a set of 7mm ford wires for around $42 plus tax. I'm sure I could find a million other wires and prices to compare to but the only set that's much less is the Bosch. I'm kind of thinking if I have nothing to lose that I might as well go with the 8.8 or 10.8 mm wires over the 7mm ford wires.

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HIS NAME WAS WILLIAM TYLER JENKINS!!!!




 
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Reply #9 –
Quote from: thunderjet302;403659
You want these: http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=2553
  ...X2, except I had to use shorty plugs to clear my headers.
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Reply #10 –
I've used Accel wires for years. They are a good wire. What I liked about them was that I would buy the universal V8 set and cut to size for my Mazda 4 banger and still have plenty of wire left over for my other projects. They used to cost me about $30-$35 back then.
 

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Quote from: Pacerized;403719
It sounds like most don't think the accel wires would do anything more then a set of ford wires.
The thing is if I buy online I can get a set of of 10.8 mm accel wires for about $50, a set of 8.8mm for the same price (different site) a set of 8mm Bosch at autozone for $33 plus tax or a set of 7mm ford wires for around $42 plus tax. I'm sure I could find a million other wires and prices to compare to but the only set that's much less is the Bosch. I'm kind of thinking if I have nothing to lose that I might as well go with the 8.8 or 10.8 mm wires over the 7mm ford wires.

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;403793
I am fascinated at this answer!!!! What does the diameter of the wire have to do with anything??? Just curious!!! Did you ever see a set of TOYOTA supra wires. Thin as PENCILS and work great. People think the aftermarket stuff is made in THE BLACK FOREST BY LITTLE ELVES!!! Just me could be wrong. By the way who says the aftermarket ignition systems have higher voltage and work better then the OE. Unless Ford and all the other companies design wires that dont work??? Fascinating. My coupe has stock ford wires and all the other ignition components and can rev to the moon and not miss a beat. The TFI system develops well over 50K . My cylinder scope does not lie Thanks

 
I guess what I'm looking at is that I have to replace my wires anyway and since I can get the heavier gauged and insulated wires for about the same price, why not? I doubt if they'd be any worse then stock 7mm wires and may give some minor advantage at least in the heavier insulation. At first I though the price was a lot more but since it's not, why wouldn't I want to buy the heavier gauge wire?

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Reply #13 –
GOOD answer and i respect that. Just wanted to let people know they dont need 100 dollar plug wires. I can understand them as an impression factor. But impressions are to the beholder. If you are good with that That is great. But more times than not the aftermarket stuff is GARBAGE. Thanks Tom

"Low-resistance" conductors are an easy sell, as most people associate all ignition wire conductors with original equipment and replacement ignition wire carbon conductors (which progressively fail as a result of microscopic carbon granules burning away and thus reducing the spark energy to the spark plugs) and with solid wire zero-resistance conductors that were used by racers with no need for suppression. Consumers are easily led into believing that if a spiral conductor's resistance is almost zero, its performance must be similar to that of a solid metal conductor all race cars once used. HOWEVER, NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!
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Reply #14 –
Good information! As always on about any forum, you have the purist and the guy's who are always looking for something better. I for one am not convinced that all aftermarket products are garbage. If you look under the hood of most of the guy's who race, I would be willing to bet that they are not racing with the stock items that the car came with. I don't hear anybody knocking aftermarket pistons, roller rockers, ect.. Sure there is a lot of "snake oil" in the automotive market, just like any thing else. How long would it take for a set of Accel wires to deteriorate? Doesn't stock wires also deteriorate? A price on a set of original wires might cost about the same as a set of Accel wires. I believe that building one's own car allows us to be creative. Not every one want's to go down to the dealership and buy their dream car, drive down the street and see the same car, same color, same engine, ect.. Just a thought.