i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #45 – February 17, 2012, 05:43:32 AM i was being nice to the dodge owners here.. they already suffer enough from owning the ugliest US built trucks on the road.. lol i've never laid a hand on a 3.5, so Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #46 – February 17, 2012, 06:26:50 AM I own a 3.5 and haven't had any problems with it, nor have I seen any major problems with them and their relative, the 4.0. I know there is a tendency for them to gum up intake valves, but I haven't seen any yet serious enough that a can of combustion chamber cleaner and a Seafoam treatment hasn't cleared up. I think you're thinking about the 2.7, Beau, which is notorious for sludging... Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #47 – February 17, 2012, 08:04:39 AM The fact that we are having a conversation about a modern engine that has gumming up issue is ridiculous.This isnt the mid 70's.Travis Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #48 – February 17, 2012, 11:39:30 AM It will only get worse from here. Engines gum up because of poorly designed PCV systems. Modern direct injection engines will be even worse because they don't even have the benefit of washing the back of the intake valve off with gas. That being said, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that modem engines, even trouble-pr0ne ones like the Chrysler 2.7, run far cleaner and last far longer with far less maintenance than any older engines ever did. 100k used to be about the best you could hope to get out of an engine, nowadays it's just getting broken in at that mileage... Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #49 – February 17, 2012, 01:02:34 PM Yes Carm, I meant the 2.7 lol(Had 3.5 on the brain after reading some article about the EcoBoost 3.5 Ford..dunno why the numbers stuck..)And I agree about the sludging. I had a Jeep J series truck as my first vehicle....I rebuilt the 360 in auto class in high school, that thing had about an inch of crud caked inside the valve covers....at that point, I'd only been driving it about 5 months..lol, that was 17 years ago..please excuse me now, it's time for my geritol, can someone hand me my cane. Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #50 – February 17, 2012, 02:02:09 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;380947 last far longer with far less maintenance than any older engines ever did. 100k used to be about the best you could hope to get out of an engine, nowadays it's just getting broken in at that mileage... I would say overdrive transmissions, interstates, and better oils play a huge role in the mileage increase. You take an old 460 and you can beat the far out of it and it is going to just sit there and look at you! Just my opinion though! :D Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #51 – June 13, 2012, 02:33:23 PM the F150 repair you mentioned should be done with the cab removed. Next time ask a certified mechanic. Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #52 – June 13, 2012, 03:28:47 PM You can pull the heads without removing engine/trans/cab. Be will likeley break several bolts on the exhuast theough.At my last job, we pulled the heads off a v-10 without oulling the cab, and it was half the work of pulling the cab. Just had to pull front acessories. Not much room though. Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #53 – June 23, 2012, 11:07:25 PM Same thing happened on my dad's 2000 Expedition a few months ago -- blew out plug #4. Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #54 – June 23, 2012, 11:41:55 PM Quote from: Quietleaf;393123Same thing happened on my dad's 2000 Expedition a few months ago -- blew out plug #4. *cringe* I hope that doesnt happen to our 2001 :( Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #55 – June 24, 2012, 03:55:47 AM Quote from: 88turbo;393128*cringe* I hope that doesnt happen to our 2001 :( I dont know why ford didnt put more threads in the heads but Ive always been told to change them with the engine cold. Quote Selected
i HATE ford and their piss poor designs.. Reply #56 – June 24, 2012, 04:23:15 AM Good stuff in here for me to remember with the F150's.The 4.6 is a remarkably smooth running motor that has been proven to make great horsepower to cubic inch ratio through the years. I know they started out with badly designed valve seals so they would burn gobs of oil in the Panther chassis and mn12 until Ford redesigned the valve seals and then the blowing out spark plug issue which who knows why they took them so long to redesign this. They also had a few designs of intake manifold disasters that were finally upgraded.What I have seen and since owning a 1997 Grand Marquis panther with 150k miles on it, those motors (if properely maintained) run and operate very nicely. Those cars are very shade-tree mechanic friendly. I used to frequent on the Panther forums and the panther "box" "aero" and "whale" all are a well respected masterpiece from Ford. Now if they could have used some of that greatness with the trucks from 1997 on up?I have owned some cars over the years with some proven "junk" motors from our domestic manufacturers.255 Ford oiling systems sucked and choked by EPA 301 Pontiac sheared off the crankshaft pulley keyway 2.8 MPFI Chevy numerous sealing problems with intake, rubber plug to block distributor hole2006 and 2000 Chevy Impala, 2 different designs and still could not figure out the intemediate steering shaft designBut the thing is the manufacturers have always got to be competitive, safe designs, value for the money, stylish, "environmentally friendly" and above all profitable in a crazy economy.What gets me is that we Americans have invited such import companies as Kia and Hyandia to be so successful in our market along side the already proven import market as Nissan, Honda, Volkswagon, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Mazda which has helped make the domestic market to have to cut so many corners. They have had to discontinue beloved builds and makes and eliminate way too American jobs or send them to Mexico.If you think about where Hyandai and Kia started with there py econo boxes in the 1980s and 1990's, if American consumers would not have bought that cheap , they would not have created the revenue to build themselves up to where they are today- being one of the biggest names on the roads. I am sure today they are a decently built automobile, but so is everything else in this cut-throat auto industry or they would not be on the showroom floors. I would have been satisfied seeing a Kia or Hyandai microwave on Wal Marts shelves today and drive by Mercury dealership with a new line of 2013 rear wheel drive Mercury Cougar XR-7's with the new 5.0 that is based on a well optioned Mustang but with Mercury's premo finesse.Sorry for the rant and rave and getting off topic, just had to throw in my $.02 Quote Selected
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