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i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #30 –
who said anything about emissions? i didn't see anything like that stated.. lol but 5 threads? seriously? ford should have seen this coming..
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #31 –
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;380785
The whole blow out problem is because there are only five threads in the heads to secure the plugs, if there had been eight or so there would have never been a problem... Emissions has zip to do with the problem, it's a $hitty design plain and simple but Ford won't admit to it... They blame loose or over torqued plugs as the problem, but many of the trucks have blown out the original plugs...

I posted this same info over on the Crown Vic board this morning as there were some members whining about the same in the Vic 4.6...
No argument here. Emissions was just mentioned because emissions, fuel mileage, and the desire to make them more car like have contributed to the PITA design of the truck as a whole.

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Shadow;380786
who said anything about emissions? i didn't see anything like that stated.. lol but 5 threads? seriously? ford should have seen this coming..

I think he was refering to post #22. Emissions has a great deal to do with design, just can't be blamed for everything.

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #33 –
Quote from: Chrome;380760
After pulling the shroud and accessories, there is plenty of room to stand in the engine compartment to work.

 
didn't even see this.. lol but that's exactly what i did, pulled the accessories, fan and shroud and climbed my fatas* in there to finish ripping it apart.. it was almost necessary in order to get to anything around the intake.. i'm 5'9" and this truck made me feel like a little person.. i literally felt like i was working on my old shortbed, which sat on 9" of lift and 39.5 TSL's.. ri-friggin-diculous
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #34 –
Quote from: Shadow;380786
who said anything about emissions? i didn't see anything like that stated.. lol but 5 threads? seriously? ford should have seen this coming..

I believe it's actually 4 threads/fine. The late 04 heads (DOHC anyway) finally went to a 9 thread.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
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FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #35 –
ok I just saw the smiley face, either you are a genuis or a jerk, depending on who sees that next lol. Personally I give it my seal of approval.
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i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #36 –
it was the only thing that put a smile on anyone's face at that point.. i hope it cheers the next guy up a little lol
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver
 

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #37 –
I just went threw the whole plug change nightmare in my 06 5.4 broke 5 of the 8 glad I bought the tool before I started.
87 TC
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i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #38 –
It didn't get any better in '04. Yes, there are more threads on the plug, but then ford went with a two-piece spark plug that breaks when you try to remove it. Ford has issued an updated one piece plug but that doesn't do much good to the guy with a broken plug in his engine. Ford actually has a convoluted removal procedure for this style plug that includes soaking with combustion chamber cleaner.

I'm a tech at a used car lot that sells all makes and models, mostly three model years old, and I can tell you all from experience that shiznitty design is not a Ford exclusive. I can look at any car on the road and tell you what issues that particular model is known for. GM, for example, couldn't manufacture a wheel bearing to save their arses. Dodge hemi and 4.7 engines tend to break exhaust manifold bolts (which can be just as exciting to do as ford plugs). I could go on and in but lunch break is over...
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1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #39 –
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;380851
Dodge hemi and 4.7 engines tend to break exhaust manifold bolts (which can be just as exciting to do as ford plugs).

the 4.7 is garbage top to bottom.. they're known as 'sludge motors' because sludge tends to build up everywhere and restrict oil flow
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #40 –
My good friend owns an 8 bay mechanical repair shop.

We spend hours BSing about factory stupid , Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Asian, whatever.

On newer fords the joke is step 1 remove neg battery terminal.  Step 2 remove engine.  :)

When it came time for me to purchase newer (ie 10 years old or less) daily driver for the wife.  I talked to him at great length.  When it comes to the purchase prices, durability, cheap to fix....you cannot beat a panther IMHO.  They just work.

When it comes to trucks....GM all the way.  They seem to have less stupid stuff.  In his opinion. 

Newer is never better in my opinion nowadays.  Just way too much stupidity to overcome.

Travis

P.S.  Don't even get me going on Modules to control power windows that has to be replaced and then reprogrammed to the BCU....just to open the window....geez.

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #41 –
Quote from: turbotrav;380866
Newer is never better in my opinion nowadays.  Just way too much stupidity to overcome.


P.S.  Don't even get me going on Modules to control power windows that has to be replaced and then reprogrammed to the BCU....just to open the window....geez.


x2 on both of these.. i refuse to own a ford newer than 96 and at that point, it can/will ONLY ever be an SC or F150.. everything else (including GM, dodge, asian. european, etc) could fall off the face of the earth for all i care, as far as personal ownership goes.. both for the piss poor designing that makes everything difficult and the body styling..

as for the stupid window modules, as soon as the customer tells me the window won't go down, i refer them to the dealership.. could it be the switch? sure, but i'm not going to waste my time and theirs, just to find out it's the module that has taken a dump.. i usually get 'well you can do it a lot cheaper, can't you?'.. then they get mad when i tell them no.. lol
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #42 –
Quote
GM, for example, couldn't manufacture a wheel bearing to save their arses.
Aint that the truth.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #43 –
didn't see that part.. my sonoma agrees with that statement! 3 hubs in 2 years with lousy 32x11.50 AT's.. that's why i haven't touched her, i need a D44 i can narrow
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i HATE ford and their piss poor designs..

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Shadow;380853
Any newer Chrysler engine is garbage top to bottom.. they're known as 'sludge motors' because sludge tends to build up everywhere and restrict oil flow

Fix't. :hick:

Does the 3.5 V6 come to mind here, lol?
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)