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4 to 5 lug swap

Reply #15
sweeet! :D oh and for the rear axles i was looking online and they show that there are to different kind there are 31 spindle and 28 spindle axles which ones do i need or will both fit in?

whats a rough price range will the gears run me?

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Reply #16
No Fox or SN95 Stang ever had 31 spline axles factory..the trucks did...the F series.

If you can find a V8 '95..it will have the 8.8, the V6 cars had a 7.5, but the axle shafts themselves are identical, regardless of the rear end housing. Same with the front end parts, spindles, calipers, rotors, etc, are identical, whenther 3.8 or 5.0/4.6 ('94-'98) Although ideally you'd want '94-'95 stuff.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #17
I just swapped in 5 lugs axles this weekend.  From a 95 i believe.  Slipped right in.  I bought some new stock rotors and had a machine shop redrill them to fit the 5 lug pattern. As a note WATCH THAT THE SPIDER GEARS DONT POP OUT!

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Reply #18
Quote from: lakenheath24;378440
I just swapped in 5 lugs axles this weekend.  From a 95 i believe.  Slipped right in.  I bought some new stock rotors and had a machine shop redrill them to fit the 5 lug pattern. As a note WATCH THAT THE SPIDER GEARS DONT POP OUT!

Again, you have an 8.8, not the 7.5 he has. 

Axle Spreadsheet

Look at the chart, read the numbers. 

The 94-98 Mustang axles MAY work in his wider 7.5 HOUSING, but it all depends on the location of the bearing surfaces on the axles.  His housing is 1.5" wider(3/4" per side) than the 87-88TC 8.8, All the Fox Mustang 7.5/8.8, and all the 94-98 Mustang 7.5/8.8.

A COMPLETE rear axle assembly from a 94-98 Mustang (7.5 or 8.8) will be the same overall width as his current 7.5, but he would need to deal with the disk brake conversion.

As mentioned, as far as I can remember, no one has come up with a 5-lug drum brake solution for the wider 86-88 7.5 housing.  I know Gumby was messing with it, but I don't know where that wound up.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon



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Reply #21

Yes, it will fit as I mentioned above.  You'd need to use your control arms.

Obviously best to try and find something local to you, and not on the other coast.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #22
ok awesome thanks evry1 for your help now i got a good understanding of what i need n a rough price range :D

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Reply #23
Quote from: Chuck W;378487
...Obviously best to try and find something local to you, and not on the other coast.



Dang... Since I live in the "other" LA  I was going to try and sell him the pieces I've got in storage, since the car is gone I kinda don't need them. ;)

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Reply #24
I have some bookmarks that may help. I'll start with this one and see what else I can find. I've been contemplating this swap for my 84 but I haven't found any 5 bolt wheels yet that I'm willing to replace my cobra ones with.

http://www.mustangcentral.net/tech/5lug.html


EDIT:....found another one which may be of some use for information at least.

http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,2681.0.html
84 COUGAR/90 HO, 1.7RRs, performer RPM,700DP, equal length shorties, stainless EXH ,T-5,Hurst pro-billet, KC clutch, 8.8/ 4.10s, line-lok, bla ,bla, bla.
71 COMET/289,351w heads, 12.5 TRWs, 750DP, Liberty TL, 9"/6.00s, 11.9x @112 , bla,bla,bla.

Never shoot your mouth off, unless your brain is loaded! ....I may get older, but I'll never grow up!....If you're not laughing, you're not living!  :laughing:

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Reply #25
Your 84 is a different beast than his 86 in regards to the rear axle. Nothing posted that's for a Fox Mustang will work for the rear of his car.

The numbers are there in the chart I linked and the couple caveats I mentioned.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #26
I stand corrected. I was understanding that the 84, 85, and 86 used the same components. I posted the links as a different point of view with a little more info as I like to find as much info as possible prior to a project so as not to second guess myself when it's done.
84 COUGAR/90 HO, 1.7RRs, performer RPM,700DP, equal length shorties, stainless EXH ,T-5,Hurst pro-billet, KC clutch, 8.8/ 4.10s, line-lok, bla ,bla, bla.
71 COMET/289,351w heads, 12.5 TRWs, 750DP, Liberty TL, 9"/6.00s, 11.9x @112 , bla,bla,bla.

Never shoot your mouth off, unless your brain is loaded! ....I may get older, but I'll never grow up!....If you're not laughing, you're not living!  :laughing:

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Reply #27
Quote from: QUICKSHIFT;378654
I stand corrected. I was understanding that the 84, 85, and 86 used the same components. I posted the links as a different point of view with a little more info as I like to find as much info as possible prior to a project so as not to second guess myself when it's done.

As has been discussed at length here, the 7.5 housing used in the 85.5-88 cars is wider than the earlier ones.  Again, the chart I linked has the numbers for you. 

Your 84 has the narrower "Mustang" housing, and will accept any of the 94-98 5-lug Mustang axles.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #28
ok i got another question about the rear, i found a guy localy with a complete rear end and he says it has 3.27 gears, now i dont kno what my stock gears are and i was wondering if this would work with my car or if i would have to change the gears or something thanks.

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Reply #29
3.27's are an improvement over what you have now...if it's an 8.8 and for sure 3.27's I'd have no problem snagging it up.

If you can see the rear in person, spin one axle end by hand, and watch the driveshaft yoke. If it rotates 3 and 1/4 times roughly to one complete turn of the axle end, it's a 3.27 ratio, and bonus points if it's a Trac Loc.

Any idea on what it's from? Some mark VII's had 3.27 8.8 rears...I *think*.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)