Help...Window is detaching from frame

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Help...Window is detaching from frame

December 12, 2011, 10:08:58 AM

Did anyone ever have this problem. My passenger side window keeps coming off the frame when lowering it. I used epoxy twice to secure it to the plastic "c" in the window frame. The second time it held for about a week then let go again. I'm about to get a bit for glass and drill a hole through it at this point. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Help...Window is detaching from frame

Reply #1 – December 12, 2011, 10:30:25 AM

try that they sell for the rearview mirror tabs.. i've used it before and it holds up pretty good.. just make sure you clean the epoxy off first

Help...Window is detaching from frame

Reply #2 – December 12, 2011, 11:01:46 AM

http://www.turbotbird.com/faqs/#Door%20Glass%20came%20off%20the%20track%20and%20dropped
^ Tech article on window repair.

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Reply #3 – December 12, 2011, 09:04:05 PM

I was having this problem with my Windows as well. What I did was remove the glass removed the clips that are glued on. Sanded the out of the glass to clean it and scuff it up really good then JB welded the clips back in place let the JB weld sit over night and pit it back in. Has held up for about a year so far.

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Reply #4 – December 12, 2011, 09:39:22 PM

I had the same problem. I was told by a friend who works at an auto glass company to use window-weld. It did the trick. It comes it a caulk tube and is available at auto part stores for around $13.

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Reply #5 – December 12, 2011, 11:21:12 PM

Thanks guys. I wish I asked here first. The plastic clips split when I was removing the epoxy. It stuck real good to the plastic, just not the glass. Must be because I didn't scuff up the glass side too.

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Reply #6 – December 13, 2011, 05:23:45 AM

You can buy new clips in the dorman/help section. Dril small holes through them, and they are wider. Sand window andclipps with rough sandpaper. Then buy the black tube windsheild adhesive. Give it a couple days to dry, and only do it if its in a warm place. It will not cure below freezing. Really nasty stuff, but holds well, and remains slightly flexible. Wear rubber gloves.

Lube the tracks uup well with white lithium grease and make sure everything is aligned properly. My 86's windows had holes in them. That is how we fixed the windows on them when they came off the tracks. Not sure if the 87-88 glass is the same, but the doors will swap if your desperate, or want to try to use the guts out of them or something.

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Reply #7 – November 16, 2013, 01:34:50 PM

Here we go again. Just the other morning it was real cold and the window came of the regulator again. I saw a post by vinnie saying he used marine adhesive from walmart. I had zero luck locating that stuff. The guys at the parts stores suggested two other alternatives: body structure adhesive and also 3m window regulator tape. Does anyone have any experience with these products?

Just for the record, I used the 3M Wind-Weld Super Fast Urethane, sanded the glass and clips, and cleaned them off with rubbing alcohol prior to installing the window. It was warmer than 70deg out and I left it sit for more than a couple of days to cure. I guess this was maybe close to a year ago. What am I doing wrong?

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Reply #8 – November 16, 2013, 05:41:12 PM

This stuff is a white stick. You break off a piece and knead it til it has a uniform color, then use it.

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Reply #9 – November 16, 2013, 07:10:45 PM

This is the same kind of stuff. Works great. I used it once and never had to do it again. It's been years now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAPA-Consumer-Brands-NCB-8277-Epoxy-Adhesive-Water-Weld-2-oz-/261311605831?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd762ac47&vxp=mtr

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Reply #10 – November 16, 2013, 07:32:02 PM

I really do stand by the windshield adhesive. it is designed fir automotive grade glass and plastic as well as metal.

how well did you lube the windows up, and did you use the stock tabs, or the parts store ones? the parts store ones are more then twice the size and work fine

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Reply #11 – November 17, 2013, 03:46:15 PM

Thanks guys. I'm going out there right now to see what exactly happened and to take some pics.

Vinnie, I did see that water weld in the store but I didn't know it was equivalent to what you used. I did use jb weld once but that was without roughing up the glass.

Haystack, yes I'm using the stock tabs. I'm definitely using the parts store ones this time as the stock ones are BEAT. I saw online that it's possible I had the tabs in the wrong position (too close/far apart from the rear of the window).

As for the adhesive,I used it last time but I think maybe it failed because I didn't apply it right. I'll try to get more in the tab "channel" next time. Also, when you say lube the window are you referring to the run channel or lift channel? Everything seemed to move smoothly enough.

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Reply #12 – November 17, 2013, 08:58:40 PM

lube everything that moves.

I did this to my old 87. twice it failed before I lube everything, then it worked good as new. it lasted for about 2 1/2 years when I junked the car I am a heavy smoker, so I use the windows much more frequently then most people would.

clean the window up really well, then do a dry fit. run the window up and down a couple of times and see where the channels want to stay. the parts store ones are in the dorman area and almost twice the size of stock. I drilled some small holes in them just incase. then when you have it sitting just right, hold the window up, or run it down holding the glass in place, then dump a bunch of that in there and roll the window track back into the window until its all the way up. leave it up for a couple of days.

wish ya the best man. good luck. its a pain in the butt

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Reply #13 – November 21, 2013, 11:06:20 AM

Thanks a bunch. Too much happening and I won't be able to get to it til this weekend. I'll keep you guys posted.

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Reply #14 – January 18, 2014, 02:22:49 PM

Has anyone noticed those scissor arm supports don't naturally rest at the bottom of the glass whether all the way up, down or in between? Mine seem to want to pull the bottom edge of the window inward. I couldn't find an adjustment to ease the conflict between the lateral position of the glass and those two clips.

I used Permatex® PermaPoxy™ 30 Minute High Strength General Purpose Epoxy before reading this and it's curing now. I suspect I will be doing this again.

Does anyone know the part number of those Dorman clips? I searched Dorman's site and Advance Auto and I couldn't find them.