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TC 2.3 questions

Reply #30 –
anyone make an aftermarket throttle body for these motors.. or is the stock TB sufficient for making (relatively) big power?
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TC 2.3 questions

Reply #31 –
Stock Tb is fine for up to 350 horsepower, but for better response I went to a 65mm 95 mustang  TB. Forced 4 sells a TB adapter kit for the 95 TB. You can get a 95 Stang TB at the jy for about $45. I got mine on half off day for $22, and the added plus is the IAC from your stock unit bolts right up, AND another added plus is the TPS on a 95 stang is nonadjustable, so you wont ever have to set it. You will need to cut and solder your old TB female connector to the 95 TB harness, but its easy.
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TC 2.3 questions

Reply #32 –
YIKES.. $210 for an adapter? holy  lol i may be able to get the machine shop to CNC me 1 for less than that, if i can find a better pic and drop off an intake and 94-95 TB

350hp is roughly my current goal with simple mods.. so my stock 1 will do for a while. thanks for the info
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #33 –
If you're handy, and it sounds like you are, you can just fab up a bracket to move the throttle cable/cruise cable to the correct location for the 'Stang throttle body. It would require the use of a longer intercooler/throttle body coupler
88 TC 5speed, 168000+ miles, stock 2.3T long block, ported RFE6 exhaust, Evergreen T3 running 15#'s.
Up next: FMIC, fresh air intake, ported intakes, ported big valve head.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #34 –
well 1 of the first things i'm doing is ditching the top mount and moving onto a front mount. i may not know much about these TC's yet, but i do know a fair amount about turbos and the fact that a front mount will be a pretty substantial upgrade for cooling the cold side before it reaches the throttle body.. so that would fix any 'fitment' issues with the TB and intercooler..

so that's the only difference between the 94-95 mustang body and the TC body? that's highway robbery for that adapter, than.. i can probably make a new cable bracket for under $20 if i don't already have the right materials laying around.. i guess it all just falls into the 'supply and demand' way of things
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #35 –
On my burgundy bird, I'm making 400whp through the factory throttle body.  I don't see it as being that much of a restriction.  You can also upgrade to a supercoupe throttle body too

88 t-bird tc - 14.97 @ 90  IHI 18 psi + k+n filter...so far - NOW HX-35 @25psi - 12.75@112    348rwhp/395rwtq
78 F-150 - 11.61@120 on 175shot N20 - 12.55@110 on motor - 5200# race weight:hick:

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Reply #36 –
REAAAAAAAAAALLY!? i have a polished 75mm TB from my SC.. think it might be a little too much?
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #37 –
It's better to match the TB to the HP output of the engine. Smaller is better for driveability.

If you need it, do it. If it's not a restriction, don't.

With too large a TB it ends up being such a small deflection of the pedal to get a big change in the air delivered that it isn't as fun to drive.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #38 –
i guess i should have started this by asking,, how big is the stock tb? or should i say small lol.. 75mm seems a bit big for a 2.3, but again.. i don't know much about these turbo 4 bangers yet.. learning something already, but i wouldn't say i'm comfortable enough to dive in and build a potentially 400hp motor like i would a small block
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #39 –
here's a list of things i plan to do before i start driving it..

- compression test.. if that checks out good, than:

- front mount intercooler with my own mandrel bent plumbing
- 3" downpipe to 2-1/2" duals with stainless tips
- 3" fresh air intake
- fresh tune-up/fluid change
- new timing belt and accessory belt
- a good throttle body/intake cleaning
- adjust boost according to what turbo is lurking under the hood
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #40 –
well, things are looking up for this car already and it's not even here yet.. i'm getting a rebuilt, 0 mile garrett T3/4 for basically nothing (my current turbo plus $50 cash, whether it's the IHI or a T3).. just need to take a ride to de to get it


now, out of spontaneousness, i went on summit's site and looked up cams for the 2.3.. since i know nothing about these 2.3 cam durations/lift/lobe separation, i figured i would ask how well any of these cams would work. none of them (as least that i've seen) are 'SVO/TC/2.3T only' cams, infact, none of those are mentioned.. but it doesn't say NA only either..

http://www.summitracing.com/search/Make/FORD/Engine-Size/2-3L-140/Engine-Family/Ford-4-cylinder/Part-Type/Camshafts/?Ns=Price|Asc
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #41 –
Don't waste your time there. Call either Engle and ask about there line of 2.3 roller cams, or Boport (although he is currently experiecing supplier issues, and his stock is VERY limited, if he has any at all). Schnieder also offers some nice grinds. Esslinger carries rollers, but they're pretty pricey.
88 TC 5speed, 168000+ miles, stock 2.3T long block, ported RFE6 exhaust, Evergreen T3 running 15#'s.
Up next: FMIC, fresh air intake, ported intakes, ported big valve head.

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Reply #42 –
was just curious and looking.. was on there ordering a remote oil relocator and figured i'd check some out. the only thing boport has in stock is stage 4, which i want nothing to do with at .620 lift.. the others don't list prices up front, which i HATE.. not to mention, i see nothing 2.3T specific.. i don't like playing guessing games and i hate dealing with companies (and people) who don't give a price up front..

i'm not touching whatever cam is in it anytime soon, if at all, i was just curious.. if the motor dies before next winter, it's getting trashed for a built SC motor.. i was originally going to take that direction, but i figured i'll give the 4cyl a chance.. if i like it, i'll rebuild it next winter.. if it dies on me and i'm forced to put my yota back to daily driver status, i'm not going to be a happy camper.. i don't want to daily drive a bagged truck again
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #43 –
Engle and Schnieder both have very good reputations. Give them a call. Last I knew, Engle's price was a little under $300 for the cam.
88 TC 5speed, 168000+ miles, stock 2.3T long block, ported RFE6 exhaust, Evergreen T3 running 15#'s.
Up next: FMIC, fresh air intake, ported intakes, ported big valve head.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #44 –
i'll basically be forced to IF the 4cyl lives until next year, since these companies don't know how to list prices.. a cam change isn't really an option right now, though.. just basic 'bolt ons' that didn't really involve downtime. i get the car next week and it needs to be on the road within a week from then, so my yota can go into winter hiding from snow and salt..

this is basically just down-the-road research.. thanks for the company names though, i wrote them down in my 'shop' notebook so i don't forget who/what they are
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver