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TC 2.3 questions

Reply #15 –
Lots of good advice here, Shadow. I totally agree with putting in some healthy springs. Not crazy stiff, just fresh and adequate to the cam you choose.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #16 –
Quote from: jangus;372473
Uhmm, you've left out the cost of the valve job that'll be needed after the seats are installed. In addition, factory springs are marginal at best, totally inadequate with a better cam, better figure in the cost of those, along with new guide seals. All of this assumes the actual head itself isn't cracked. If it is, which it probably will be, the cracks may be taken care of with the new seats if the cracks are small enough. If the cracks are large, and unable to be taken care of with new seats, you'll need to find another head.
As far as costs go:
Seats:  $20-$30
Install:  About $50
Valve job:  $100-$150
Springs:  $50 on up (You can pay more if you want, but the ones I run for a mild    hydrualic cam run $50
Valve seals:  $25 for good quality Viton seals
Cam:  Choice is yours, but I wouldn't run anything but a roller. They can be purchased from various sources: Schnieder, Engle, Bo-port, etc. Expect to spend upwards of $400 for a cam and proper roller followers. Everyone dogs on the Ranger Roller, but for a person on a tight budget who wants a roller cam, or someone who's slider cam is wiped out, it's not a terrible choice. It has good manners, a strong bottom and mid range, and it's a roller. It's just a little weak on the top end, runs out of steam around 5500.

 

i don't pay for valve jobs, so that cost is exempt for me (old family racing connection).. i don't think he's capable of replacing the guides though, not sure.. i will have to call and find out..

what should a 2.3T pump for compression #'s? thinking i may just run a compression test before i do anything
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #17 –
Quote from: TOM Renzo;372489
By the way what type of tail pipe test does NJ do on older non OBD2 Cars??? I am guessing ASM 25/25


don't know.. i'm not very big on inspection, if you know what i mean.. i don't know anything at all about the tests except whether i pass or not.. lol
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #18 –
Quote from: flylear45;372496
Lots of good advice here, Shadow. I totally agree with putting in some healthy springs. Not crazy stiff, just fresh and adequate to the cam you choose.


thanks.. that seems to be a given on any ford motor.. 5.0/5.8 springs are barely strong enough for a stock cam, not surprised that the 2.3 springs are the same way
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #19 –
Compression should be 140+.  Don't remember if stock ones are higher or not, but mine usually ended up 145-150psi

88 t-bird tc - 14.97 @ 90  IHI 18 psi + k+n filter...so far - NOW HX-35 @25psi - 12.75@112    348rwhp/395rwtq
78 F-150 - 11.61@120 on 175shot N20 - 12.55@110 on motor - 5200# race weight:hick:

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #20 –
that's really the problem.. it's unknown if it's stock or not.. for all i know, it could be fully worked and pushing 400rwhp.. not likely, but who knows.. we'll find out when she's in the driveway and i start poking at things
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #21 –
Stock
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #22 –
when i bring it home.. i'm going to pop the valve cover off and inspect the cam to see if it's stock or aftermarket.. from there, i'm going to run a compression test to see what that yields.. hopefully the compression is relatively equal across the board.. if so, i'll put the plugs back in and inspect the compressor housing.. if it's the IHI, i'll drop the boost to 18 where it really should be.. if it's a T3 or anything else, i'll adjust accordingly.. if it IS the stock IHI, i'll be replacing it soon anyway. the guy said the car pulls harder than his 347 notch, so something tells me the IHI has already been ditched
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #23 –
anyone ever use a marshall reman head? are they a good reman or a sloppy thrown together pile of ? they're only $480 plus core charge from rock auto

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=986305
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #24 –
Their website is acting kind of py right now, but these guys have affordable heads: http://www.cylinder-heads.com
The other choice is to get a good core and do it yourself.
88 TC 5speed, 168000+ miles, stock 2.3T long block, ported RFE6 exhaust, Evergreen T3 running 15#'s.
Up next: FMIC, fresh air intake, ported intakes, ported big valve head.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #25 –
don't see any 2.3T heads.. i have no problem paying $480 for a head, if it's a quality reman and mine is thrashed
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #26 –
Oops, wrong site. http://www.cylinderhead.com
They do carry turbo heads. Several people from the NATO board have used their heads.
88 TC 5speed, 168000+ miles, stock 2.3T long block, ported RFE6 exhaust, Evergreen T3 running 15#'s.
Up next: FMIC, fresh air intake, ported intakes, ported big valve head.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #27 –
lol.. that explains it.. i'll call for a price if needed
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #28 –
No matter what online type place you use, it's my opinion you won't get as good a product as you would by working and establishing a relationship with a local machine shop. Do your research, and go to a few and check them out. Ask if they're familiar with a 2.3 Lima (many won't be). Check for cleanliness, and ask around the local car enthusiast community for reccommendations.
88 TC 5speed, 168000+ miles, stock 2.3T long block, ported RFE6 exhaust, Evergreen T3 running 15#'s.
Up next: FMIC, fresh air intake, ported intakes, ported big valve head.

TC 2.3 questions

Reply #29 –
i have a working-relationship with a machine shop in delaware already. they CNC a lot of the parts i use/sell for my micro business. on the auto side of things, i have 2 machine shops i used to send stuff to, here in jersey. i have yet to send anything auto related to the guys in delaware, but i know they pump out quite a bit for the local racers/mechanics

on a side note for anyone in jersey (or around jersey).. DO NOT go to tony figga (figga's auto machine), instead of milling heads, he puts them on a large belt sander to 'level' the surface.. he cuts too many corners to line his pockets
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver