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Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #195 –
I'll be checking the harnesses under the carpet as well.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #196 –
Yes, the original inner sockets had two wires. You will only be connecting to ground and park to return to stock...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #197 –
I may wait to pull the seats and check the harnesses under the carpet first. My gut says under the dash somewhere, maybe under the carpet. I'll know as soon as I can get some #&%@$# time off. I hate my work schedule.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #198 –
How hard is it to swap the harness out under the dash? Not the harness for the computer.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #199 –
Never done it, but remembering what mine looked like when I swapped the actual dash (and left the harness there) I'ma say it'd be a big bucket of suck...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #200 –
Did it look like this..........

'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #201 –
I'm starting to think I may need to swap the whole thing. No decisions being made on that until I look at a few more things, check under the carpet at the harness that runs down the side on the floor, and look behind the dash again. After that, then it will be an option.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #202 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;372079


SPAGHETTI!! nom nom nom nom nom lol
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #203 –
Sickening picture, and what I MAY be looking at next Friday or Saturday......


....again.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #204 –
I have to disagree with Thunder. A fault with the sequential unit could cause a backfeed that could cause dash lights to flash just like a shorted or ungrounded socket/bulb. If there is a problem with bypassing it I don't think I would worry. I still feel problem is around dash area. Still sounds like a ground issue, but it looks like we have covered all grounds. It really hurts the diagnostic process that u can't find what is blowing the fuse. Just figures when u actually want something to break it won't!

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #205 –
I JUST checked the fuse...not popped.

I turned on the signal light and the dash is not blinking with the signal now. Still don't have the two outer tail lights though. I got under the dash and pulled the cluster today after work.

On the back of the cluster, it LOOKED like the circuit sheet behind the cluster had a small tiny part that was folded over. I folded it back and secured it with quality tape (small piece). Maybe that caused the dash lights to flash, or maybe I moved, wiggled, whatever a wire under there when I was looking around. A small amount of progress. I had to wait til it got dark so I could check that.

Now, Thunder Chicken...how do i check the sequencer to see if it's causing the outer two lights not to work. Man, I love the sequentials. I'd hate to lose them.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #206 –
use the test light to test the turn signal wire(s) that go INTO the sequencer.. in other words, the side with the harness that comes from the front of the car.
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver
 

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #207 –
I'll check them tomorrow after work first thing. Waiting for Thunder Chicken to let me know which wires to check. I should've kept the instructions.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #208 –
Quote from: Chrome;372086
I have to disagree with Thunder. A fault with the sequential unit could cause a backfeed that could cause dash lights to flash just like a shorted or ungrounded socket/bulb. If there is a problem with bypassing it I don't think I would worry. I still feel problem is around dash area. Still sounds like a ground issue, but it looks like we have covered all grounds. It really hurts the diagnostic process that u can't find what is blowing the fuse. Just figures when u actually want something to break it won't!

Impossible. If the sequencer were causing a backfeed the park lights would have to flash too, it could not cause the dash lights to flash without causing the park lights to flash. Since the park lights are not isolated in T-Birds, causing one to light up would cause them all to light up, front and rear (in other words, introducing power anywhere in the circuit would energize the entire circuit). This short would have to work both ways, too - the park light circuit would then have to energize the right rear stop/turn circuit, so it would look like the right side brake lights were on any time the park lights were turned on. And even then the problem would have to be outside of the sequencer, such as in a socket, a pinched wire, or a faulty bulb. The sequencer is only connected to the stop/turn circuit and cannot feed any other circuits internally.
 
Matter of fact, it's very likely the "both ways" thing is what's causing the dash light fuse to blow. The short is definitely somewhere between the FRONT right turn signal circuit and the dash light circuit (it has to be front right - if it were the rear right the indicator in the dash would not come on with the park lights). Since the dash light fuse is a low amperage one the extra load caused by trying to energize the turn cignal circuit is blowing the fuse.

Vinnie: I'd have to know the vintage of your sequencer before I could offer troubleshooting help for it, as there were a few different generations. Could you take a pic of it?
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #209 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;372079
Did it look like this..........


Sort of. It looked more like this though:
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2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣