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Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #135 –
Some connectors to unplug for the LB/R wire from fuse 13.
C288 LH side of fuse panel, black 12 terminal. Pic below.
C308 RH side of IP, gray 2 terminal, clock lamp. Shown in the G902 pic.
C247 At cigar lighter lamp, gray 2 terminal. No pic.
C907 Behind center of IP at the heater A/C control lamp. gray 2 terminal. No pic.
C560 Behind RH side of IP. Graphic equalizer lamp. Gray 8 terminal. No pic.

The right turn signal is a W/LB (white with light blue stripe) wire.
C237 LH side of steering column, Gray 6 terminal.
There are two W/LB wires on the same terminal of C237.
One goes to the cornering lamp relay. pic below (good luck figuring where that is )
The other goes to terminal 16 of C285 on the cluster.
There is a second wire on terminal 16 that goes to C232 at the LH front fender apr0n below the the head lights and from there to the RH front turn signal light.

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #136 –
I don't have anti-theft, cornering lights, graphic equalizer,or a moon roof. That has to help.

I'll try unplugging those things one at a time after I install a new fuse. It's raining now......of course.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #137 –
When you refer to "terminal" are you talking fuse location? I can drop the fuse panel fairly easy. Electrical stuff easily confuses me. Honestly, I have to admit, I was looking for another Sport today to donate the current drive train in to and swap bodies, so to speak. That's how much I hate this stuff.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #138 –
With terminal I am referring to the wire positions in a connector. A connector that has positions for 6 wires is a 6 terminal connnector.
The cluster connectors have 18 terminals
 

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Reply #139 –
Aaaaah, I see now. I'll try again tomorrow to find the culprit. Every free day I've had I'm looking. No dice. I've got more time into looking for this elusive  wire than I do installing my drivetrain into this car...and a few different intakes.....and the heater core swap.

I will start again at the fuse panel, and see what I can see and trace that bleepin fuse 13 wire a little ways. If I have to, I may take a couple of days or so off work and pull the dash out completely (out of the car) and check the harness. I REALLY don't want to do that, so, I'll think small and stick to the topic........

Checking wires...I'll re-re-check the fuse panel and nearby plugs, and then the cluster plug, column plugs,etc.

I'll put a new fuse in the panel tomorrow after I drop my son at school, turn on the head lights and see if that pops it.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #140 –
I have an 88 EVTM if you need any pages posted. I don't mean to butt in, but according to the fuse chart, the only circuit listed for fuse 13 is for "instrument illumination", which I know covers many items.

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Reply #141 –
Please, by all means, "butt in". I'll take ANY ideas one can toss out there. I'd ask for pics of the pages you speak of, but I don't know what I'm looking for. Another member here may have an idea. My owners manual shows fuse 13 to illuminate the gauges, a/c controls, and the stereo. 

But my clock,a/c panel,gauges, headlight illumination panel, and console ashtray light are all blinking with the signal light. But not my outer two passenger side tail light bulbs.....What do they ALL have in common?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #142 –
If you keep popping fuse #13 then what appears to be happening is that whatever is shorting out is simply inoperable, while the power from the turn signal switch seems to be feeding back through that circuit. The electricity has to go somewhere, so it's dissipating where it can (ashtray light, gauges, etc).

My personal observation based on past experience...

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Reply #143 –
Could there be something on the cluster that causes that? I pulled the ashtray bulb, and no change. I pulled the cluster, and no change. Swapped the signal assembly, all of the interior lights are working. The a/c controls are working,stereo is good, door locks, third brake light, every exterior light but the two bleeping outer passenger lights. Weird.crazy stuff. I pulled the stereo today and checked the wires. Couldn't find anything bad. I'm unsure what I missed...but apparently I missed something, or it would be fixed.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #144 –
Agreed Eric. Go after what you know is wrong and see if that leads you anywhere.

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Reply #145 –
I thought I did. I replaced bulbs, gave the cluster a really good look front and back, swapped switches,....I need a map. Is there some kind of tail lamp relay somehwere?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #146 –
I'll scan and post a few pages .  Maybe someone will see something.  Give me a few minutes..........

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Reply #148 –
Eric, what's an "LB/R" wire?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Need help FAST !!!!! FIXED !!!!

Reply #149 –
light blue with red strip wire
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