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Reply #15
My friend in the machine shop says there are 4 different firing orders since the 289. He seems to know his stuff, I am always bugging him about mismatching ford stuff, and he is always telling me I shoulda went with a chevy! He is one of those guys who was making strokers before there were kits! Yeah bad rod angles and all! I am a beginner mechanic so I tend to ask a lot of silly questions...

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Reply #16
Quote from: canadiancarguy;368833
My friend in the machine shop says there are 4 different firing orders since the 289. He seems to know his stuff, I am always bugging him about mismatching ford stuff, and he is always telling me I shoulda went with a chevy! He is one of those guys who was making strokers before there were kits! Yeah bad rod angles and all! I am a beginner mechanic so I tend to ask a lot of silly questions...
Your friend is wrong  there are 2 and only 2 firing orders for the SBF  15426378 and 13726548
Fox-less at the moment

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Reply #17
Quote from: canadiancarguy;368833
My friend in the machine shop says there are 4 different firing orders since the 289. He seems to know his stuff, I am always bugging him about mismatching ford stuff, and he is always telling me I shoulda went with a chevy! He is one of those guys who was making strokers before there were kits! Yeah bad rod angles and all! I am a beginner mechanic so I tend to ask a lot of silly questions...

 Your friend is wrong  there are 2 and only 2 firing orders for the SBF  15426378 and 13726548
Fox-less at the moment

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Reply #18
Quote from: hypostang;368877
Your friend is wrong  there are 2 and only 2 firing orders for the SBF  15426378 and 13726548

That is correct, two patterns... The 13726548 pattern was first introduced in the new for '69 351, was later used for the 5.0 HO...

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Reply #19
4?! holy cow.. lol definitely only 2.. standard 289/302 and 302 HO/351
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Reply #20
Yeah ok that is good to know, I was starting to wonder why would Ford overcomplicate things like that. Bad enough I am not that smart to begin with, now I got people telling me wrong answers... I already have a yard full of broken stuff from listening to wrong info! I am wondering if my buddy is just messin around with me.... I get pretty worked up pretty easily, like yesterday I had to get the ecu code to on 3 performance so they could burn the initial startup chip for me. I was sure I needed to send the code from the new computer that will be used with mass air conversion, but my buddy kept insisting it was the one off the car they needed. So I sent both just to be sure with an explanation why I sent 2 ecu codes.

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Reply #21
NowRING
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #22
chevy was just trying to be cool like ford :giggle:
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Reply #23
Actually, ford copied chevy. Don't tell anyone though. Same with the buick 3.8 and the ford 3.8.

And if you want cheap power go chevy 350. There stock heads are as good as some aftermarket fords.
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Reply #24
SHH!! don't use such terrible language!! geez.. lol i'm more satisfied with the power small block fords make than the small block chevys i've built/owned.. dollar for dollar, hp for hp, ford is my choice, hands down.. i have a lousy 1500-2k into my 306 that's in my buddy's S10 and it throws down more power than most sbc's with that kind of money in them, and i kind of slacked on the top end by using ported GT40p heads.. most of my money is in the bottom end (eagle crank, summit rods, KB pistons).. people just have it in their heads that ford motors are super pricey to build, which isn't really true
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #25
You gotta know what put in em, that is the secret, you can have alot of money tied up into an engine but if the parts don't match or work well with each other you not making the power you should be making. The last 347 stroker I had was all wrong and sucked compared to my buddy's 306. Yeah Ford small blocks can be pricey if you don't have the knowledge to be thrifty and know what to cheap out and save on versus buying new expensive parts. Most of the Ford guys up here just happen to have a junkyard that they pick and choose what goes into the junkyard. Mostly Ford explorers, fox bodies, and aerostars. If the average guy like me was puttin a motor together, I'd tend to spend more because I don't know what parts to look for used and what parts to source new (I am learning I think) a Ford small block would be more pricey, but the price of aftermarket ford stuff has really come down in past few years....

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Reply #26
Quote from: Shadow;368925
people just have it in their heads that ford motors are super pricey to build, which isn't really true

That no doubt usta be the case but with the leap in popularity of the 5.0 due to the Mustang, there isn't much difference these days... I've even heard Chevy guys whinin' about all the good heads avail for the Ford SB...

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Reply #27
there are more and more parts popping up for the sbf's and a lot of companies catering to ford only.. I LOVE IT!
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

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Reply #28
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I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #29
small block fords breathe better than small block chevys with a pair of clevland heads strapped on top ;) .. clevors are still a bit of a new concept to me, but i think i'm going to build a 413 clevor with aluminum clevland heads with a nice bit intake.. i have yet to find a boosted clevor though, which is definitely what i'll build.. the runners on some of the aluminum clevland heads are big enough to fit a golf ball :O
ShadowMSC.com < < Still Under Construction

R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver