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A new issue to work out..UPDATE...

Reply #15 –
I'll be advancing the timing to 14. That's where it was before the intake swap. It's at 12 right now.

The fan is a large single fan unit from a Taurus. Nice piece. The radiator I have now is pretty thin. A 3 row will be had soon.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #16 –
Is there any way you can get an aftermarket temperature gauge on it and confirm what the temperatures actually are? The Taurus fan should be more than adequate. When I lived in OKC I ran a Mark VIII fan with a stock style three row radiator (GoDan brand, it's all over the Mustang forums and I can post the part number if needed) with AC and it ran about 195 with a 180 T-Stat in traffic. On the highway it ran about 180.

The stock radiators cannot handle much of a performance jump as they are sized for what the car made stock. Upgrade the radiator and you will be happy. I ran the same radiator (3 row GoDan) in my Bird with a stock clutch style fan and it kept it cool all the time in Lawton. The new setup is the same radiator, Mark VIII, and a DCControl just like my Coupe.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #17 –
I can see a couple of possible problems since the intake swap after thinking about it.

1. You may have a bad thermostat (if you replaced the old one with a brand new one when you swapped the intake).
2. There may be a problem with the temp sender wiring causing it to read high.

I just had my T-bird out this week in 97* humid temps with the A/C on full. The stock 23 year old radiator has a big trans cooler and the condesor in front of it and a 9 blade HO fan and 5.0 Mustang police interceptor fan clutch behind it. The temp never got more than a bit beyond the half way point.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #18 –
Hold up on that car young GENTLEMEN,The TC front clip must have the valance installed or it will overheat. You may just be starving the radiator of incoming air. Do you have the lower valence installed?? Fin count is the number of fins PER INCH OF COOLING TUBE. Regular radiators run ABOUT 16. HD runs app 18 And super duty"s have vertical as well as horizontal. Measure the fin count to see if you have a HD COOLING BOX. Good luck
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #19 –
i have a Mach 1 chin spoiler on the car. It scoops forward and draws a lot of air when the car is moving. Like I said, no grille, thin radiator,wicked heat and slow driving.

The thermostat is the same one I had on the GT-40 intake. It was fine. I really think it's the radiator. I'll look to find a thermometer and see the actual temp. I'm STILL saying radiator.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #20 –
Aerocoupe.....YOU know the blazing heat I'm talking about....and it hasn't even reached our "real" summer time yet. Looking at over 102 degrees for Monday. August should pretty much burn everything to the ground....then burn the ground......
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #21 –
Is this the first summer with the new motor and A/C?
88 Cougar LS 5.0 .030 over, ported E7s with GT40 valves & trickflow springs, Proform roller rockers, HO cam, removed air silencer, K&N filter, smog pump delete, 2.25" dual flowmasters, Pacestter H-pipe & headers, HO computer, 65mm TB, Explorer intake, 19# injecters, 3.45s, rebuilt posi, and TCI shift kit.

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Reply #22 –
Yep. I had the engine last summer, but no a/c.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #24 –
I saw a few on Ebay, and one of my local friends got one for his Stang and was very pleased with it. It's an all aluminum 3 row radiator (probably puppiesanese made), but it has great welds, hasn't leaked at all, and after about 8 months, he's still very pleased.

I'm just looking around, but may go with it. It fits the budget for the Sport (a little over zero dollars.LOL), and as I stated, it's been great in my friend's car. Here it is....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180679048014&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #25 –
I ordered a new aluminum 3 row radiator today. Hopefully it'll be here by the weekend (I'll be off work) and I'll have a full report about it, and the results after I install it.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #26 –
This is the one I ordered...........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330560876149&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

It fit the Sport's budget, and as I stated, a report with pics will be posted.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #27 –
O.K., running around with no a/c, the temp is almost, but not quite to the half way mark. I turn the a/c on, everything is O.K. for a short while, then boom, really warm. I think I'm going to swap the water temp sender (It was on the intake) and see what happens. I'll also swap the thermostat. maybe it too is at fault. First the sender.....if I can get to it. That Trick Flow intake is massive. Not much room, and I really don't want to have to pull the upper because I'll have to pull the strut tower brace. Oh well, gotta do what I gotta do.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

A new issue to work out..UPDATE...

Reply #28 –
What are the TEMP readings in and out of the radiator??? This will tell you the efficiency of your radiator. Did you take readings??? What is the FIN COUNT????? If the new radiator has a poor fin count it cant transfer HEAT. Just curious. It most likely is adequate. But the fin count is KEY TO COOLING not the amount of rows to some extent.

Just some info!!

Copper is Better than Aluminum

If you want to maximize cooling in your vehicle high-performance vehicle, you should consider choosing a copper or copper/brass radiator rather than an aluminum one. Copper is a much better conductor of heat than aluminum, and can help increase cooling performance considerably. Many copper radiators have copper fins, but use brass tubes.

Adding another row of tubes has other effects.  It provides another path for the coolant, resulting in lower coolant flow velocities through the tubes.  Optimum coolant flow velocity through the radiator tubes is about 6 to 8 feet per second.  If the flow rate becomes low enough, laminar flow occurs, creating a boundary layer of coolant along the walls of the tubes. This boundary layer, or very slowly moving layer of coolant, acts as an insulator and retards heat transfer.  Going to a smaller tube size when adding a row of tubes is one way to keep the coolant flow rates up in the tubes to help prevent the formation of a boundary layer.  Another way is to use dimpled tubes, which are commonly used in low flow applications.

Like i explained above bigger is not always better.

Note 16 fins are about the best count for cooling a high performance engine. If the count goes higher it can restrict air flow in some cases.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!
 

A new issue to work out..UPDATE...

Reply #29 –
Temps? I have no idea, and no way to take them. I can't go buy another radiator, so, that's out of the question. In normal driving, it seems fine. When the a/c is on, it heats up.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..