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Will the 87/88 bumper fit under the 83-86 cover?
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Reply #1
It's a totally differant shape? I wouldn't think so. Do you need an 83-86 bumper? I have several
John

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Reply #2
Looking to trim some weight without impacting (nyuk nyuk) safety.  I blame fordguy545 and gumby for this thread. 

After seeing fordguy545's trimmed bumper, it got me to thinking about using pre-preg CF *as a reinforcement.  Trim a factory metal (or fiberglass) bumper of as much material possible, lay the pre-preg, bag and cure it.



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Reply #3
If you are gonna be tpuppies it, and already planning to lay the pre-preg CF, I'm sure you could make the 87-88 bumper fit nicely inside the early cover. :evilgrin:
The 87-88 bumper would make a much lighter base to begin with, and likely a fairly easy substrate to bond the CF onto.

I already have a few guys who blame me for certain car hobby related choices they have made; get in line :nkhk:
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

Another thought:

Reply #4
I was considering a CF or fiberglass hood but don't see that as a viable choice now.

fordguy545 shed a few pounds by removing part of the underside support frame of the hood and trunk.  Would a sheet of pre-preg laid on the underside restore the some or all of the stiffness?  It would be easy to prep the surface then bag and cure it.
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Reply #5
Workin from what I see on our racecars that have CF bodies, rather than adding thickness to the entire panel for rigidity there are patches added only to the specific areas that require it. I would assume the same would hold true on the underside of a sheet metal hood to some extent.
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Reply #6
Bumper question - are the bumpers straight bolt-in swaps with regard to mounting (not counting bumper cover)?

Lid questions - I ASSume the loss of rigidity is torsional and not surface deflection?  If one were to chop the underside like 545 did, then lay a sheet of CF everywhere there wasn't the reinforcement, would that work like the mods on the race cars?  Or would a third layer of another material need to be added, eg foam core?
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Reply #7
SWAG ahead:
I would say a web of CF strips bonded directly to the hood, and located where you remove the reinforcements, would make a significant decrease in flimsiness.

Additionally, If you cut some 1" foam in the same layout and bonded that to the hood like a hat channel(similar to uni-body channels), you would add a large amount of beam height which would add to torsional rigidity.
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Reply #8
Gumby, not sure I know what you mean.  Are you suggesting cutting foam pieces to fit so that the CF has a relatively smooth flat shape?
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Reply #9
Basically you would use the foam to replicate the layout of the braces that are cut out, then lay the CF sheets over that. x's are foam:
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Reply #10
ah, got it, thx.
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it may be dirt,

Reply #12
but it's classic dirt
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hmm, could there be another purpose here?

Reply #13
Something besides weight loss?
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one more thing

Reply #14
Thishiznit the floor as the rear bumper came off the car.

Was Ford using punch cards at the time?
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