Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? December 21, 2010, 12:12:18 AM I'm playing "good idea, bad idea" again:hick:. I've found a couple of nice 5.0 Mustang 'verts for sale that seem like they would make good DDs. The only problem I have is that I'm not sure a 'vert would be a good DD in the snow belt. Thoughts? Why am I considering a Fox Mustang as a DD with no qualms but I couldn't DD a Fox T-bird/Cougar or Mark VII? Well those cars are hard to find in nice shape and I don't want to ruin a nice one by driving it in the snow/salt. I could care less if I did that to a Fox Mustang. Why? There are thousands of Fox Mustangs that are or will be preserved and they are not hard to find in nice shape. Who cares if one is a DD and gets attacked by salt. It's just a Fox Mustang;). Fox T-birds/Cougars and Mark VIIs are nice cars, are hard to find not beat to hell, and should be saved. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #1 – December 21, 2010, 12:19:31 AM I used to have an 81 Mustang with a 302 when I lived in upstate NY. I had studded snow tires on it and kept the hatch loaded with sand bags just to be able to move down the road. A vert might be a little better because it's heavier, but I wouldn't recommend a Mustang (especially a 5.0) as a winter driver for anyone who has to drive in snow and ice. I grew up in northern WI and never had a problem with rear wheel drive V-8 cars up there. (Thought I'd throw that in there, before I get the "you have to know how to drive in the snow" comments since I live in VA now) Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #2 – December 21, 2010, 01:33:26 AM I plan to daily drive a 5.0 vert starting next spring...gonna go for it, just found out tonight the title is clean, clear, and in the name of the guy who wants to sell it to me.Man, I need another building for all the vehicles I will have in a coupla-3 months lol Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #3 – December 21, 2010, 02:26:33 AM I don't think you'll like all the problems that come with having a convertible uni-body. Other then that, its just like your bird, but alittle bit smaller. If you have decent tires you'll be fine. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #4 – December 21, 2010, 01:44:30 PM I wouldn't get a convertible to drive every day, the trunks are tiny. I'd be looking for a hatchback. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #5 – December 21, 2010, 02:53:27 PM I dont understand why people want a nice car for a DD if you live in the snowy area. Why beat up a nice car, the salt is going to rust it out and you might run off the road or slide into something or someone. Why not get a beater, like a pick up or a FWD import. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #6 – December 21, 2010, 03:08:38 PM In my case: because the price is right, the title is clear, it has a 302 (not efi, car was a 2.3, now has a carbed HO 302) but I've seen it, heard it run, and it's not a hack job.plus it's not in any better shape than my tbird, there's millions of stang verts on the road, and..i don't plan on driving it in the winter, I have a 4x4 truck for that.I'm tired of not having a fun car, a ford car to drive to work everyday, when it's nice. The ONLY downside to this car is that it needs a new top. And an efi 5.0. And a 5 speed. And etc....good thing is, I have most of what I need to bring the drivetrain/suspension/brakes to 5.0LX/GT standards..it's a '93, not a show car, but it will be fun. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #7 – December 21, 2010, 03:46:55 PM I tried to drive a 5.0 86 Mustang through one New England winter , It was great as long as I didnt want to go anywhere, It was a notchback not a hatch or convertable, I had studded snows in the rear, skinny all seasons in the front and 150 lbs of speedi-dri in the trunk and it still wouldn't go anywhere , But my 84 Turbo coupe was one of the best rear wheel drive snow vehicles I ever had. I would not recommend a mustang for the snow . Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #8 – December 21, 2010, 04:15:30 PM eesh, our cars are scary enough in the wet/snow. My old '85 is the only CAR that I've ever owned that caused me to lose control in hard rain. Take the same this time, with less rear weight and more power and less weight overall. Don't think so. I would have considered an SN 95 or a 99-2K4, but I don't fit very well in those. An older foxbody is good if you're on the tall side, they have the most legroom before 2K5 if I'm not mistaken. Before I bought my MN-12 in 2k2 I was looking at a 98 GT and an extremely low miles Monte SS. The 98GT had "fitment" problems and the Monte SS was too nice to use as a daily. The MN-12 wasn't too much better on legroom until I found out that the front seats can be moved back an additional inch on the track, after that mod the car was perfect. Believe it or not, I've driven every single foxbody platform (even the LTD) except for a mustang, in fact I've only been in one my entire life and I was the passenger. I sat in the front seat of one that I was considering getting and wasn't too delighted with it. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #9 – December 21, 2010, 06:35:01 PM The only upside I see to this is that you'll be paying 4cyl insurance rates for the car. Fox Stangs make shiznitty daily drivers and the vert factor makes it worse. Not to mention the carb setup. Just break down and buy a MKVII Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #10 – December 21, 2010, 06:59:04 PM Why are Fox Mustangs bad DDs? I can't imagine driving it in the snow is that bad. I drive a MN-12 T-bird in the snow and I've gotten stuck once, when I tried to pull out of a parking spot after 12" of snow fell overnight. Most cars would get stuck in that. MN-12s are considered to be some of the worst cars to drive in the snow and I manage it fine. I go all over in the snow with it. The thing has an open 3.27, no abs, and no traction control. What I'm wondering about with the 'vert is how weather tight it would be. I'm more concerned that it will leak like a sieve and/or be drafty than how it drives in the snow. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #11 – December 21, 2010, 07:43:05 PM I've never had a problem driving any car, van, or truck I ever owned in snow.... You just have to learn to drive in it, that's all.Honestly.....My vert is waterproof in rain with 50 mph wind, I don't see why a stang wouldn't be weatherproof . (as long as the top doesn't have holes). My step-mom had a fox stang in the 80s.... She never had a problem in Buffalo snow. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #12 – December 21, 2010, 08:12:00 PM Quote from: thunderjet302;346445Why are Fox Mustangs bad DDs? I can't imagine driving it in the snow is that bad. I can only speak from my experience .....the car was too powerful and too light in the rear to be driven in New England snow storms , I have no idea what the terrain in Chicago is like but it was kinda hilly where I lived ...flat roads with a few inches were not a problem but so much as any hint of an incline would cause it to just spin and spin." Not getting stuck" in my opinion is not a great bench mark for how well a car is in the snow and the "you need to know how to drive in it" I think is BS too, I drove through 18 winters in Mass ..some vehicles are decent in the snow and others not so much . I]never had a problem at all in any wrong wheel drive cars in the snow ever . a Taurus makes a great winter car IMHO Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #13 – December 21, 2010, 09:16:53 PM You know what, I spun out the other day in a light rain while driving my 88 crown vic wagon. That car is neither light, nor powerful. Its basically on par with a 84-87 v-6 cat/bird. I was flipping a u-turn and tried to shoot a gap I shouldn't have. I have also not had any problems with the same car in the snow because I know it is going to be slick and plan for it. The car has good stock sized tires. I have gotten it stuck once, where I was able to drive it out. That was in about 12 inches of snow. My bird I have driven the winter for 2 years with both good and bad tires, and I have not gotten it stuck. As long as you know what your doing in the snow its not a big deal. If its slick out, don't drive. Wait till the plows are out. I don't plan my day around how much snow there is, but if I don't have to drive I don't.I have had way more problems with FWD cars then any other in the snow. Quote Selected
Fox Mustang 'vert as a DD? Reply #14 – December 21, 2010, 09:17:11 PM You know what, I spun out the other day in a light rain while driving my 88 crown vic wagon. That car is neither light, nor powerful. Its basically on par with a 84-87 v-6 cat/bird. I was flipping a u-turn and tried to shoot a gap I shouldn't have. I have also not had any problems with the same car in the snow because I know it is going to be slick and plan for it. The car has good stock sized tires. I have gotten it stuck once, where I was able to drive it out. That was in about 12 inches of snow. My bird I have driven the winter for 2 years with both good and bad tires, and I have not gotten it stuck. As long as you know what your doing in the snow its not a big deal. If its slick out, don't drive. Wait till the plows are out. I don't plan my day around how much snow there is, but if I don't have to drive I don't.I have had way more problems with FWD cars then any other in the snow. Quote Selected
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