True Turbo Coupes Reply #60 – March 13, 2010, 12:42:36 PM Seriously? Trying to make myself feel more adequate by swapping in a V8? Is that kind of like trying to keep up with the "Jones'" type slam? Please.....I own an 86 Mercury Capri that is faster than 90% of the Mustangs in my area, yet when I have it out and about, the average person doesn't know the first thing about it. Try taking it to the Mid-America Shelby meet and be put in the "Special Interest" class and get parked along side a 6-figure fully restored 66 Galaxie 7-Liter...been there.....or how about next to a Pantera? They look at my Capri like it's another used car. Don't tell me about building something to try to "fit in"!! The truth be told, I gave the 2.3T some credit for mileage and durability, that doesn't mean I HAVE to keep it in MY car, whether it's tuned correctly or not, mine's a tired oil burning weak and slow 4-cylinder....and, since I have a few extra 5.0 T-5 set ups laying around, it's going to get swapped out some day. Have a nice day.RAY Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #61 – March 13, 2010, 12:55:28 PM Quote from: Silver5oh;314000Seriously? Trying to make myself feel more adequate by swapping in a V8? Is that kind of like trying to keep up with the "Jones'" type slam? Please.....I own an 86 Mercury Capri that is faster than 90% of the Mustangs in my area, yet when I have it out and about, the average person doesn't know the first thing about it. Try taking it to the Mid-America Shelby meet and be put in the "Special Interest" class and get parked along side a 6-figure fully restored 66 Galaxie 7-Liter...been there.....or how about next to a Pantera? They look at my Capri like it's another used car. Don't tell me about building something to try to "fit in"!! The truth be told, I gave the 2.3T some credit for mileage and durability, that doesn't mean I HAVE to keep it in MY car, whether it's tuned correctly or not, mine's a tired oil burning weak and slow 4-cylinder....and, since I have a few extra 5.0 T-5 set ups laying around, it's going to get swapped out some day. Have a nice day.RAYYou have a Turbo Capri? Wow! Nice ride! You don't see those around much. You know, if it's burning oil like that, I think the best thing to do would be to give the car to me. You don't want a car like that. :)I feel bad now, because I never wanted this thread to turn morass like this. I thought we were above this kind of elitist . As long as you like your ride, that's all that matters. Let's save the callow rhetoric for the Mustang forums. Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #62 – March 14, 2010, 02:52:05 PM Ok, let me clear something up.....My THUNDERBIRD is a Turbo car while my CAPRI is a factory 5.0 5spd car (one of 3,303 built in 86). Sorry for the confusion there. BTW-Turbo Capri's were only built up until 1984 while the SVO Mustang took over the 2.3T duties until 86 along side the Turbo Birds.The Turbo Coupe was parked about 2-1/2 years ago when when I bought my 99 Crown Vic Police Interceptor as a DD because it was burning oil and the gas mileage was going down, so yes...it needed a good tune up and some maintenance. I actually looked into some performance parts for it and quickly realized I could swap in a V8 for less money and have something I personally know alot about.....I'm not too familiar with 2.3Turbo's compared to the venerable V8. I appreciatte you trying to turn this around and it not turn into a screaming match!! LOLMy only point was I love my Bird's appearance and the "sports car/performance" items it came with (5-speed, sway bars, quad shocks etc) but I still prefer the low end grunt of a well built V8....Turbo lag's not my favorite thing during spirited driving and dollar for dollar, a 5.0 seems the most realistic than rebuilding a 2.3T. I know it may be frowned upon by others...but as said before...this is a hobby where we should all be able to build our cars into what we want, right? Later, RAY Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #63 – March 14, 2010, 03:49:26 PM I've used several automatic and 5 speed TC as daily drivers(owned 14 total), basically for me, it's too much car, not enough engine... The 5-speeds are peppy and can be fun but AFAIC, there is no replacement for displacement... Most of the fast TC's are gutted or stripped of their A/C, ABS, etc for weight reduction, on the other hand my Bird is full weight and all creature comforts are functioning(OK one of the power door locks has failed, but it's still in there, on my to do list)...Quote from: oldraven;313992I would always look for an unmodified 'factory performance' car.I have one and it ain't a TC(actually I do have a stock TC, not licensed though)...http://members.pen 15s.net/turbocoupe50/cobra1.jpg Quote Selected
Just out of the curiosity.... Reply #64 – March 16, 2010, 09:12:22 AM Quote from: TurboCoupe50;314167I've used several automatic and 5 speed TC as daily drivers(owned 14 total), basically for me, it's too much car, not enough engine... The 5-speeds are peppy and can be fun but AFAIC, there is no replacement for displacement... Most of the fast TC's are gutted or stripped of their A/C, ABS, etc for weight reduction, on the other hand my Bird is full weight and all creature comforts are functioning(OK one of the power door locks has failed, but it's still in there, on my to do list)...I have one and it ain't a TC(actually I do have a stock TC, not licensed though)...http://members.pen 15s.net/turbocoupe50/cobra1.jpgDo you have pics of the TC? Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #65 – March 16, 2010, 09:42:20 AM It's the red one in the five Birds pict...under hood... Whew that's a big pict, changed to link...http://members.pen 15s.net/turbocoupe50/P1180127.JPGSold this one to a buddy a couple weeks ago... Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #66 – March 16, 2010, 10:02:27 AM Quote from: TurboCoupe50;314399It's the red one in the five Birds pict...under hood... Whew that's a big pict, changed to link...http://members.pen 15s.net/turbocoupe50/P1180127.JPGSold this one to a buddy a couple weeks ago...Thanx for the pic. Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #67 – March 16, 2010, 10:30:56 AM All I know is my TC ran 14.7's with the IHI and intercooler coupler working its way off. I also wasnt exactly shifting in a sporty manner. I've since acquired a steeda tri-ax that lets me shift much quicker.I have a t3/t4 laying around that I could put on and adapt my stinger downpipe to. With a ported out mani the spool shouldnt be *too* much slower than my IHI on the unported mani. I already have full boost at like 2500 if Im into it hard.That would probably get me low-14's if not better. A better intercooler setup would be even better yet.All with parts that are either laying around or can be had cheap.I dont think a 5.0 could get me there as cheap. Figure $200 for exhaust, $150 for used turbo, $50 for a used downpipe elbow, maybe $100 for an intercooler setup, though you can get them much cheaper if you look around. What can you do to a 5.0 for $500? Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #68 – March 16, 2010, 12:03:00 PM Has anyone here used the adjustable camshaft gear on their Turbo Coupe? I was thinking of that with a Gillis Valve. However, this is for one with the automatic. Thoughts? Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #69 – March 16, 2010, 12:55:05 PM Quote from: bhazard;314404 What can you do to a 5.0 for $500?Not much if you buy new parts like I did, I have approx $3500 it the 5.0, but money was never the question... Wanted a nice, powerful driver with a AUTOMATIC transmission, drove mostly stick shifts for the 33 years prior to converting mine to V8/AOD, never been sorry... Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #70 – March 16, 2010, 05:36:09 PM I don't have oil leaks, and I know My cam isn't going to spit a rocker without notice. 2.3's are cool when they run . Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #71 – March 16, 2010, 06:51:31 PM ^sure, it'll just toss a pushrod when it feels like it. I'm running a adjustable cam gear and it can definately change where the powerband is. I was running mine 4* advanced the later half of last year compensating for my leaking wastegate. Probably put it back to straight up or retarded a little this year. But then again, I'm not running anything close to a stock cam either. My little 4 cylinder sounds like a 5.0 at idle! Also lets see you make 3hp/ci in a 5L and not break in half after a couple runs, lol Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #72 – March 16, 2010, 06:54:19 PM Well I guess the 2.3 is more suited to someone like me who doesnt have a lot of money to throw into the car. Cheap speed. Quote Selected
Oh Boy! Reply #73 – March 16, 2010, 09:33:03 PM I see this thread is starting to get ugly again. :(Changing gears; can any of you 2.3T enthusiasts tell me what kind of power-handling capabilities a 2.3T block has? How much power can the internals handle. From what I think I understand, their pretty stout.. Quote Selected
True Turbo Coupes Reply #74 – March 16, 2010, 09:50:00 PM 400's safe. 500's probably getting near the edge for the rod bolts. Although throw some arp rodbolts in and guys have made 585 on video, probably more than that. The actual block can take 800+ I would guess.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv1-omYCb9c Quote Selected
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