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Reply #30 –
yea, I was young once too.
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #31 –
Age has nothing to do with it.  The stupidest thing I've ever heard from someone TRYING to sound knowledgeable concerning cars came from the mouth of a man in his mid 40's. 

In this case it sounds as if our new member and his father are relying a little too heavily on third party info without actually researching themselves.....

The knowledge is here and in other places as well.  Best of luck ;)
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #32 –
Lol Thats why i joined this forum. and thats why im ALWAYS making new threads. lol I have learned alot about these cars here. Easy on the third party info please lol I have alot of respect for the guy. He kinda started out like me....when i say kinda i mean he has mustangs....now he has a foxbody stang that runs high 9's....i love it and hope to buy it someday haha i cant remember his exact words but he wont sell it to me until i build a car myself...why would i wanna buy his if i have my own pride and joy? Maybe thats the point... and to the guys wondering why i would want a car that has lower gears with stock, because when i come off that line beside that Built 67 stang in town (We only go until the speed limit i dont top speed race anymore thats stupid) ill get him nervous if not keep him beside me.. and you'll see in another thread that im about to buy a whole H.O. engine, but im going to convert it because I dont want to rebuild the things that i dont need for the conversion.

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Reply #33 –
If you have any hopes to keep up with a built '67 Stang, you'd better be getting more than just a set of gears.

Hell, if he just has a 289/302 he's gonna wax your ass.
You've got 150 horsepower, stock. An HO has 225.
3.73 gears will give you a little jump in acceleration, but you're still gonna see Stang tails from the start.

As far as my comments that were taken out of context about tires and stickiness...I was referring to something like drag radials, etc.

And I DO know that you can get softer tires, that aren't strictly for drag racing. I have a pair mounted right now...

To the OP...think this out. You're building (or wanting to, same principle) a decent street car.
Forget ALL the circle track shiznit. That doesn't mean dick on a street car.

You'll want:
Trac-Lok
3.55 gears (or 3.73)
an HO engine, at least
a decent AOD with a good aftermarket, higher-stall convertor AND a shift kit.

and something other than f*cking mud tires ;)

Another word of advice...leave the street racing to the idiots in civics with stupid wings and stickers all over.

Go to a track, and get a timeslip to brag over. Street racing is dumb, and dangerous. I've been there, and done that, and paid a lot of money to get my license back for it. Don't be the guy i was 19 years ago...it's just not worth it. Plus, I was lucky, didn't wreck, didn't kill anyone. I said lucky, not good.

Being dead at 17 doesn't mean shiznit, except you were a dumbass.
Don't be a dumbass. :D

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Big bar in back + little bar up front makes for oversteer hijinks in  parking lots :hick:

Errmmmm, try gravel roads with a TC bar out back and the stocker up front.
 

After that I put the front  bar on :rollin:
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #34 –
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Easy on the third party info please lol I have alot of respect for the guy. He kinda started out like me....when i say kinda i mean he has mustangs....now he has a foxbody stang that runs high 9's...

No offense was meant, but at the same time one mustn't judge car knowledge of a person solely on a time slip.  I can go out and buy an 8 second car tomorrow.  That doesn't make me any more knowledgeable than if I didn't and just stuck with what I have right now. 

Always check your sources.  Sometimes you can teach THEM.  ;)
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #35 –
Do not put in lower gears if you have the 7.5 rear end.  Find a 8.8 out of a Mustang and build this up with lower gears, then swap it in.  The 8.8 Mustang almost always have posi stock and are pretty easy to find and not too expensive to buy.  Used FoMoCo gears are also easy to find off eBay in both 3.55 and 3.73.  Stock gears most of the time swap right in with the same shims and this makes it much easier to set-up.

A posi will cure your traction problem and make it much faster.  I have a 1949 Willys Jeepster with a Chevy 350.  It went 17.3 in the quarter with 3.08 gears and open axle.  Then I put in a posi with 3.42 gears and it went 15.3 in the quarter with no other changes. 

Have fun and be safe.

TED

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Reply #36 –
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;314785
You've got 150 horsepower, stock. An HO has 225.


Wait...what???? i thought it was like 205 HP or something not 150??!!??  geez My friends 4 cylinder yota has 140. lol.

And I need to look it up some more to tell but idk if its a 7.5 or an 8.8... are all stocks 7.5?

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Reply #37 –
you need to go to Coolcats, and read everything that's written there. you'll learn a lot, and be able to identify parts on your car after doing some reading over there.
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #38 –
Quote from: Whiteboy;314859
Wait...what???? i thought it was like 205 HP or something not 150??!!??  geez My friends 4 cylinder yota has 140. lol.

And I need to look it up some more to tell but idk if its a 7.5 or an 8.8... are all stocks 7.5?


87/88 turbo coupes had 8.8 and some 87/88 XR7's
 all others should be 7.5
Fox-less at the moment

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Reply #39 –
I looked it up and your car is a 1988 5.0 so it would have the 7.5 and not the 8.8.

The mustang rear will bolt right in but it will be about 1 inch (I think) narrower on both sides or 2 inch total.  Not a bad thing if you get the correct wheel offset to make up the difference.  If you could find one you could also use a Turbo Coupe rear for 87-88 but you have to convert it to 4 wheel disc brakes.

I have a Mustang width rear in my Turbo coupe and I think it looks just fine with stock wheels.

You may also be able to use the Mustang housing and your axles, backing plates, and brake drums to make it work?  If I'm wrong here someone will correct me.  I know the Turbo Coupe has the same housing as the Mustang.

Anyway the 7.5 is very weak and will not hold up to any HP boost or even the way you like to drive.  IMO not worth putting money into.

Just make sure you get the 8.8 when you buy the new one.  I have to admit that I purchased a 7.5 by mistake once because I could not tell the difference at the time.  This will never happen again.

Here's a search for you http://www.car-part.com/ Just try to find a Rear Axle Assy (RWD) for a 1990 Mustang, the next page will ask you 7.5 or 8.8.  Most will be 2.73 or 3.08 but you can swap the gears out.  The best part is you can do this while you still drive your car.  You should have to pay about $225-$300.

I don't know where your town is in TN but I tried to look on Craigslist for you and found this http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/1649937148.html Don't know how far you are away here but it's a 8.8 with 3.73 gears, perfect.

TED

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Reply #40 –
He's in Missouri...

Yes, '88 V8 Tbirds were 150 horses.

The '87-'88 TC rear IS disc brake, he'll need new (or used TC) park brakes cables, possibly different master cylinder.

I've got a Mustang 8.8 in my Sport, too  narrow...looks like 10 pounds of ass in a 2 pound sack, but I knew that it would be that way when I got it. :hick:

I've heard a lot of people dog on the 7.5's....I've seen a lot of 10 second cars with them, and never a problem. I've also seen a few that made 2 or 3 passes and puke the rear out, too.
Seems as if they don't appreciate slicks and the like...I'd say it'd be survivable for around 300 horsepower though.

If he needs an 8.8, I have a Stang rear...hadn't thought about selling it...but I have no use for it now. Does have trac-loc, 2.73 gears, trac loc is good, and I just put new fluid and friction modifier in it 2 months ago...it's been driven 10-12 miles since.
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #41 –
Spider gears are the weak link in both the 7.5 AND the 8.8....

Putting in a full locker or the like (which eliminates the spider gears) will make it a much more reliable piece.

I've seen stock 8.8's blow up under less abuse than I've thrown at the 7.5 in my car.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!
 

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Reply #42 –
My 7.5 took all the abuse I gave it with the H.O engine and it had 3.45 gears ('85 Turbo Coupe rear).Never had an issue with it at all.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #43 –
the 7.5" will last awhile with a stock motor and tires. It's when you're putting 300 hp to the wheels with stick tires, you'll break it. But only a few here are
making that kind of power and drag racing on a track.
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Reply #44 –
I'm hoping for about 300 when all is said and done.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..