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Alright So I know ll of the pros/cons of switching from the 2.73's to the 3.73's or even 4.10's. Ok no lets just say 3.73. I dont need 4.10 lol. But With the gears it has in it right now, I cant catch a break coming off the line. With brand new snow tires on it Im leaving a smoke trail before it gets up and goes... I wanna put gears in it for the acceleration off the line, but is there anything I can do to prevent spinning? or at least make it spin less? Im not talking about drag strip running im talking about meeting a 350 shortbed at a stoplight and the only reason he blows me outta the water is that my car spins for the first 75ft. Surely there is something I can do,:/ I never had this problem with my old Posi-trac so im helpless here.

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Reply #1
Put some decent tires under it. Your car looks pretty much stock. Traction shouldn't really be an issue even one-legging it.
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Reply #2
Like I said it has Brand New Wintertrac tires on it. It is fairly stock and it still does it... Maybe its because they are kinda skinny but i didnt think that would reduce traction...idk.
It has some serious traction problems, but if im rolling at like 15mph, Itll get up and go. just when im stopped itll actually sit still for a second or two smoking them before it starts rolling...ive been accused of brake torqing it before. lol

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Reply #3
Snow tires have dick for dry pavement traction.
Get a trac-lok as well as some good soft performance tires, and you'll be leaving a lot less tire smoke...until you get a stronger engine ;)

Then again, when my Sport was stock, it would light up the 205/70/14's it came on with ease...but by 35 or 40, was out of steam.

I'm not sayin' to go drop 1200 bucks on a set of Pirelli's or even Toyo Proxes, but something better than an all season radial will definitely improve the traction...at least until you have snow again lol
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Reply #4
start in second gear or buy some tires with a lower tread wear rating (softer tire).
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Reply #5
or stop racing between lights... it's illegal, and can hurt someone.
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Reply #7
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Dont step on it so hard off the line till you are moving then smash it to the floor .


Thats what I do against a pen 15y Small engine guy... but those larger V8's ae a little harder to catch if I dont get a jump on em (I have a good reaction time)

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Reply #8
I have to second the new tires. I personally had snow tires on my car and suffered from the same problem. When I was 17 I couldn't afford really good tires so I experimented with low cost fuzion HRI's. There were like $60 a piece and they are still great. I have 16in tires on turbo coupe rims, they are 3 years old, and with my stock 302 when I floor it they don't spin.

Just my suggestion.

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Reply #9
The winter tires are the whole problem. They're a harder rubber compound than a performance tire. Wait until spring or summer and get a more performance rated tire, then you'll hook alot better. Of course like daminc you really shouldn't be street racing.


 

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Reply #11
i also agree snow tires are junk for hard acceleration. for good acceleration i would recommend the 3:45 or 3:55 gears w/ traction lock so it wont hurt your gas mileage very much. since your tbird is stock i wouldn't recommend 3:73 or 4:10's till you do some be mods to the engine. i didn't upgrade my gears till i tweaked my engine and suspension and then added a two big shots of nitrous
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Reply #12
Nitrous is too addictive. and expensive when you use it because of being addictive. If I cant have an engine run fast enough without nitrous, ill save up the money to build it bigger and better. lol. no offence to you though. And Im going to do the gears... Along with some other little things, If I want it, If i can afford it, Ill get it. then ill buy something to help out that part and so on. (4:11's, Better tires, Mini Spool) see they all compliment each other, then punch out the tranny for it to hold together, then work my way into the engine with H.O. conversion, Cold air intake, and Im putting a Explorer Intake on the christmas list early so Santa can start saving up.

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Reply #13
MMM, let me see if I got this right. So your problem is that your spinning to much, which is caused by more power going to the ground than what the tires can handle? So your cure to this situation is to put in lower gears, which increases the power to the ground?

Just trying to make sure I am reading these posts right :D.
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Reply #14
haha Well Yep. The mini spool will help the spinning along with the tires, as they said the wintertarcs arent made for quick acceleration. Street Slicks will help. Oh and does anyone know about those shocks that sit semi-sideways back there? will those affect traction or stability?