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Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Yeah, I know, this probably belongs in a tech section, and I probably could've found answers by searching, but I'm typing this on my Blackberry, which is neither search nor scroll friendly. I also need fairly quick answers.

Anyway, a guy brought in a 94 or 95 Mustang today for safety inspection, and it failed miserably. The rear frame rails and rear control arm moun ting points are cmpletely rotted away. Front farme rails and strut towers are very soft. It's also overheating (prolly a head gasket), runs like hell (see previous), and the battery is not charging. E-fan is seized solid, power steering is not working (pump is full of fluid tho). Needless to say, it's not worth fixing.

The car is a V6, 5-speed model. Absolutely basic, no air, no power anything. Interior is decent. The 7.5" rear has brand new calipers, rotors and pads, and the front spindles have new rotors and pads (although it needs a left wheel bearing). I'm thinking of offering the guy $150 or so for it for a parts car, but only if it's suitable for my purposes. My questions are these:

What size brakes are on the V6 SN95's? They look 11-inch-ish to me, judging by the clearance behind the rims. Will Cobra brakes bolt onto V6 SN95 spindles?

I (think I) know the SN95 axles are the proper length. Will the brakes bolt on to my TC rear end?

I'm thinking of yanking my poly-bushing'd front control arms out because I find them too harsh. Are there any advantages to using the ones off this V6 SN95 (which have new ball joints, BTW)?

Will the SN95 V6 T5 bolt onto a 5.0 (using a 5.0 bell housing, of course)? What about pilot bearings? The T5 in my car is a little hard to shift into third, and I'm thinking of yanking and replacing it (then, at a later date, rebuilding my current T5). The V6 T5 has the same gearing and torque ratings as the 87-93 5.0 T-5, right?

Any answers to these questions would be appreciated, especially before tomorrow morning...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #1 –
spindle and brake stuff, yes.
trans stuff.....maybe?
i know it will bolt up but there is sumthin about the input shaft length that is different. claude would be the guy to talk to on that....

in short, yes. get it.
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #2 –
V6 T5 has a 5/8" longer input shaft and deeper bellhousing to accommodate. well 94+ mustang T5's V6 or V8.
1979 Ford Fairmont
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5.0L/4R70W/8.8"/5-lug/3" Exhuast

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #3 –
Ok, so if the V6 input shaft is longer and I get the whole car (and therefore will have the whole tranny/bellhousing) can it be use? Or does the V6 bellhousing require some obscure flywheel or something to use on a 5.0?
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #4 –
Odd question,but,would it be possible to remove 5/8's of that shaft?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #5 –
Will the V6 T5 hold up to the torque of a V8?

I'm only asking because I've read about people blowing up non-V8 T5 transmissions when they swap them onto a torquey engine.
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Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;299121
Ok, so if the V6 input shaft is longer and I get the whole car (and therefore will have the whole tranny/bellhousing) can it be use? Or does the V6 bellhousing require some obscure flywheel or something to use on a 5.0?


think if you you put a 5/8" spacer between your block and trans. shifter will be further back, the x-member would need to be modified, and the driveshaft may need shortening.
1979 Ford Fairmont
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5.0L/4R70W/8.8"/5-lug/3" Exhuast

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #7 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;299123
Odd question,but,would it be possible to remove 5/8's of that shaft?


no
1979 Ford Fairmont
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5.0L/4R70W/8.8"/5-lug/3" Exhuast

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #8 –
The V6 T5 is rated at 265 ft/lbs, which is the same as 85-89 5.0. It has very similar ratios to the V8.

5.0 T5 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15
3.8 T5 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.73 3.15

It uses the 23 tooth input shaft so you can swap the shaft out of your old trans into it, and keep the fox bellhousing.
Matt
1984 Thunderbird - 89 302 HO, GT40 heads w/ Trick Flow springs, E303 cam, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and 600 cfm 4bbl, Mustang headers, Jegs o/r H pipe, Dynomax lers, Mustang AOD and shifter, Mustang 8.8 w/ 3.73s, 3G alternator, Mustang front and rear sway bars, KYB SN-95 front struts and shocks, and 11" front brakes.

1988 Mustang GT - GT40 heads, Explorer intake, 70mm throttle body, 70mm MAF, Crane 1.7 rrs, E303 cam, Kirban Kwik shifter w/ Pro 5.0 deluxe handle, aluminum clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster, o/r h pipe, Dynomax lers, 3G alternator, aluminum radiator, and 3.27 gears.
 
1986 Cougar 5.0, 1989 Mark VII LSC 5 speed, 1980 Mercury Zephyr 4 door (sold)

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #9 –
Dibs on the spindles! (if you get it and dont need them ;))
~Project ThunderStorm = '84 Charcoal Thunderbird - First Car - Long Time Work in Progress~
~Project (No Name Yet) = 1970 Plymouth GTX/RR "Clone"~

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #10 –
If you use the SN95 bellhousing with the SN95 T5, you will have no problems. There is a flywheel you can use, but I can't remember which it is off the top of my head.

Cobra brakes bolt up to the V6 spindles with a hair of grinding. The 94-95 spindles are the most desirable for the 5-lug swap on fox cars due to the very minor change in geometry.
It's Gumby's fault.
 

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Reply #11 –
Quote from: cougarcragar;299124
Will the V6 T5 hold up to the torque of a V8?
 
I'm only asking because I've read about people blowing up non-V8 T5 transmissions when they swap them onto a torquey engine.

Ive heard of people blowing up v8 T5s on....v8s. LOL As much as kingcars loves to bust my ass tellin' me I should swap one in...one of the big reasons I definitely wouldn't do a T5 anyway if I even considered a manual swap is just that. I feel very confident in my AOD's strength in the face of my driving habits. I wouldn't with one of those.
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #12 –
I would be all over it if I could get it for $150.

The pedals are different, but you already have them.

The v6 tranny's are almost physically the same as the 5.0's other then the ratio's noted above. I dislike such a low gear, but would be a good tranny, depending on what kind of shape it is in.

The pistons in 90 up mustangs aren't as good. Camshaft would work fine and so would the dash...

At the very least, if it has tri-bars, complete 5-lug swap.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Haystack;299151
Camshaft would work fine and so would the dash...

I dunno, I might have a hard time fitting that V6 cam into my 5.0 :hick:

I will get the car if I can, if not for anything other than the 5-lug stuff...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Potential V6 SN95 parts car, questions on parts usefulness...

Reply #14 –
it... I forgot it was a v-6. Been bouncing between forums. Sorry.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com