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October 31, 2009, 11:07:40 PM

anyone else getting bumped off the site pretty often lately?

its really odd in my case because i usually use my desktop (home pc) as the primary machine to get on here.

just now and a few past times have been booted off, i simply log on here from my work laptop and have no problem.

Its odd that one machine cant log on until after a few tries while at the same time, another machine can.

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Reply #1 – November 01, 2009, 01:04:02 AM

What do you mean by booted off? Do you mean that you have to re-enter your login (username and password)? If so, that is a cookie issue with the browser on your computer. This type of issue isn't uncommon and can happen to just about any website that uses a cookie. Generally, people would suggest you simply delete all your cookies and revisit. You'd then get a new cookie and the issue would be resolved. However, if you delete all your cookies, you'll then lose all automatic logins and site preferences for any other website. Therefore, I recommend you delete the FoxTBirdCougarForums cookie specifically. How you do this depends on the browser you're using.

Also, what do you mean it takes a few tries to login? What happens? Database error? You receive a wrong username/password error? Or are you prompted to re-enter your username/password? If the latter, see the first paragraph.

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Reply #2 – November 01, 2009, 06:55:54 AM

No issues here.

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Reply #3 – November 01, 2009, 09:47:46 AM

No issue here.....even on my Playstation 3.

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Reply #4 – November 01, 2009, 10:14:36 AM

yes, i have to re-enter my uid / pw.

I remember being able to just stay logged on, now its like if i dont do something within a certain time frame, it times out or something.

just recently over the past month, it doesnt matter what the sitution, out of nowhere i have to log back in even if i am doing something on here.

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Reply #5 – November 01, 2009, 02:05:22 PM

The issue is a "corrupt" cookie in your browser. This is a classic cookie issue, which is mostly a local (your end) issue and is why it's only an issue on one of your two machines.

Either delete all of your cookies, or find (or post which browser you're using) the FoxTBirdCougarForums cookie and manually delete it and revisit the website.

There is a slight chance if the above doesn't work that it's a 3rd party software blocking the cookie. But I'd start with the above, first.

Quote from: jcassity;297155

yes, i have to re-enter my uid / pw.

I remember being able to just stay logged on, now its like if i dont do something within a certain time frame, it times out or something.

just recently over the past month, it doesnt matter what the sitution, out of nowhere i have to log back in even if i am doing something on here.

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Reply #6 – December 08, 2009, 12:41:36 AM

well, apparently i have narrowed down

happens at random on my home desktop
happens at random on my laptop 1
happens at random on my laptop 2
happens at random on desktop 2

happens at random when laptop 1 is in any given hotel across the nation.

probably fault:
when jcassity logs on, jcassity is filtered.:D

jk

i cant figure out why no one on the admin side has asked me why i log in so often during one session. it would seem to be a reasonable question but its been the case now for several weeks.

apparently it has nothing to do with the IP of my ISP. This happens here at home while on Hughesnet or in a hotel on wifi or ethernet.
It happens pretty much only when I log on. screwy isnt it?

I am getty lucky once in a while and can stroll through a few catagories but get booted to the point that when i get done typing (like i am now) , I do a -right click / copy. This way if i hit save below, incase i get booted, when i log back on i have enough time to just past what i typed.

Its entertaining,,, with the right tools you can figure this out. I hope its a problem with my account.
I did try another account i made and the problem there is the same. A side effect is when i log in as the other account UID, jcassity logs on also,,or visa versa.

well,,, was unable to get back on to edit this message,, after about 30 attempts
anyway,,,,Using IE and Firefox

message i get is the following:

Failure To Connect To Web Server
Failure To Connect To Web Server

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Reply #7 – December 08, 2009, 03:22:14 AM

Quote from: jcassity;301645

i cant figure out why no one on the admin side has asked me why i log in so often during one session. it would seem to be a reasonable question but its been the case now for several weeks.

Quite simply because the Administrators cannot see that. The system does not count how many times you log in, though it does keep track of your last activity time stamp. The system does count failed log in attempts to go into "lock out" mode for an account.

Quote from: jcassity;301645

apparently it has nothing to do with the IP of my ISP. This happens here at home while on Hughesnet or in a hotel on wifi or ethernet.
It happens pretty much only when I log on. screwy isnt it?

It still appears to be isolated to you, specifically your machines. If the issue is occuring across multiple machines that you own, I'd have to guess that it may likely be a security software you use.

Quote from: jcassity;301645

I am getty lucky once in a while and can stroll through a few catagories but get booted to the point that when i get done typing (like i am now) , I do a -right click / copy. This way if i hit save below, incase i get booted, when i log back on i have enough time to just past what i typed.

Its entertaining,,, with the right tools you can figure this out. I hope its a problem with my account.
I did try another account i made and the problem there is the same. A side effect is when i log in as the other account UID, jcassity logs on also,,or visa versa.

well,,, was unable to get back on to edit this message,, after about 30 attempts
anyway,,,,Using IE and Firefox

message i get is the following:

Failure To Connect To Web Server
Failure To Connect To Web Server

The error message above could be the server, the network, or could be on your end. I don't see anyone else reporting that issue. I certainly have not experienced connection issues with the server/forum.

Quote from: jcassity;297155

I remember being able to just stay logged on, now its like if i dont do something within a certain time frame, it times out or something.

I missed this earlier. By default, when a user logs into their account, the account's last active time is updated to the current time. This tells the system you're active. Each time you click on an internal links to browse the forums, the last active time on the account is updated.

On a default vBulletin installation, there is a 15 minute (or it may be 20 minute - I can't remember at this momeny) timer function. Should your last activity on the forum fall outside this range, you will be considered inactive and all threads/posts will be marked as read.

Just typing a message in the message box (reply box) does not reset the counter because there is no communication back to the server to let it know you're still active. You must browse the forum by clicking on internal links.

If you select the "Remember Me" checkbox when you log in, you should not have to enter your username and password after the above occurs - if your browser is accepting cookies.

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Reply #8 – December 08, 2009, 03:31:47 AM

Quote from: JeremyT;301660

Quite simply because the Administrators cannot see that. The system does not count how many times you log in. There is no reason to do so. The system does count failed log in attempts to go into "lock out" mode for an account.

It still appears to be isolated to you, specifically your machines. If the issue is occuring across multiple machines that you own, I'd have to guess that it may likely be a security software you use.

The error message above could be the server, the network, or could be on your end. I don't see anyone else reporting that issue. I certainly have not experienced connection issues with the server/forum.

Quote from: jcassity;297155

I remember being able to just stay logged on, now its like if i dont do something within a certain time frame, it times out or something.

I missed this earlier. By default, when a user logs into their account, the account's last active time is updated to the current time. This tells the system you're active. Each time you click on an internal links to browse the forums, the last active time on the account is updated.

On a default vBulletin installation, there is a 15 (or it may be 20 - I can't recall) timer. Should your last activity on the forum fall outside this range, you will be considered inactive and all threads/posts will be marked as read.

Just typing a message in the message box (reply box) does not reset the counter because there is no communication back to the server to let it know you're still active. You must browse the forum. by clicking on internal links.

If you select the "Remember Me" checkbox when you log in, you should not have to enter your username and password after the above occurs - if your browser is accepting cookies.

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Reply #9 – December 08, 2009, 03:40:19 AM

DNS server error. Can be caused by the ISP or by windows. I have had no luck in getting mine fixed through comcast or toshiba on the wife's laptop, but I have no problems on mine.

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Reply #10 – December 08, 2009, 03:42:52 PM

You can easily use different DNS servers. It is not uncommon for people to do so. Some ISPs do not manage their DNS servers well. For example, I use a level3 DNS server as primary and a Qwest DNS server (even though I'm not using Qwest's service) as a secondary DNS server. Both give fast DNS lookup responses and have low latency to my location. My own ISP has failed several times at trying to run their own DNS servers.

Quote from: Haystack;301663

DNS server error. Can be caused by the ISP or by windows. I have had no luck in getting mine fixed through comcast or toshiba on the wife's laptop, but I have no problems on mine.

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Reply #11 – December 09, 2009, 12:47:55 AM

jeremyt
you really think the problem is "most likely" on my end?

with two machines mobile in different hotels across the nation and two machines stationary at home,,,
could it really be on my end?

what would my DNS server have to do with anything?
two laptops in Bangor Maine one week and then Texarkana the next,, then Bloomington IN ,, then Chicago the next ..so on and so forther., how is what you say possible.

further, the same results happen on two desktops at home although i frequent one desktop at home the other desktop acts the same.

treating this like anythign else i troubleshoot, its like my user name is being booted off.

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Reply #12 – December 09, 2009, 04:04:15 AM

Quote from: jcassity;301802

jeremyt
you really think the problem is "most likely" on my end?

with two machines mobile in different hotels across the nation and two machines stationary at home,,,
could it really be on my end?

Other users in this thread have reported no such issue, which includes myself. I visit this forum multiple times per day. I'm not unexpectedly "booted". I do not have to re-enter my user name and password.

What you describe is a classic cookie issue. Cookies are used by your computer's browser to store log in data as well as preferences per website. It is very common to have a corrupt cookie issue on the user's end.

As to multiple machines (4) having the issue, that does seem less likely. However, it is possible you are using some sort of security software that is common to all 4 machines. This is not a stretch. Security software can, and often do, have a side effect that can cause cookie issues.

Quote from: jcassity;301802

what would my DNS server have to do with anything?

Haystack was solely basing the DNS suggestion on your "Failure To Connect To Web Server" error.

It sounds like you may have more than one issue at play.

Quote from: jcassity;301802

two laptops in Bangor Maine one week and then Texarkana the next,, then Bloomington IN ,, then Chicago the next ..so on and so forther., how is what you say possible.

further, the same results happen on two desktops at home although i frequent one desktop at home the other desktop acts the same.

treating this like anythign else i troubleshoot, its like my user name is being booted off.

But you said you had the same issue with a different user name:

Quote from: jcassity;301645

I did try another account i made and the problem there is the same.

I think you are being paranoid to think it is specific to your account. This forum is running on a shared server. The Administrators (if you think are the ones responsible) have limited powers over the server. Although vBulletin is highly customizable with all sorts of plugins, you indicated above it is not your user name and it is not your IP address. You just cleared some possibilities right there.

You are having symptoms of a cookie issue when you have to re-enter your user name and password, which is browser specific on your machine. If it is occurring on multiple machines, the next theory is you have a common security software or setting that is interfering with the cookies.

Given that many users in this thread have stated no such issue as you have, it clearly is a local issue or specific to your environment. I don't mean to sound like an ass, that is just logic and partly understanding the environment of this forum and server. One can only conclude that if one single person, or a small percentage of users, have an issue - it's isolated to the users and their environment and may not be within the control of the Administrators.

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Reply #13 – December 09, 2009, 07:28:58 AM

I connect here with 3 diff. computers every day, and never had a login, or bumping off problem. I even have connected through a Verison wireless card on my laptop with no problems. It sounds like your computers all share a common issue with the login connection.

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Reply #14 – December 11, 2009, 01:10:36 AM

thanks for the pun jeremyt, not called for though. I was troubleshoting while i got some help on the more technical networking side.

eitherway, my recent post on 9dec must have fixed the problem. odd timing but nontheless the problem went way as magically as it appeared. Maybe I fixed it on all of my machines at once,,dono though because i have not been to this site on those pc's since then.

I do not have common security programs either. Nothing of all the pc's are common except for my uid. this is why i asked if there was a problem with my uid to you guys.

case closed.