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Strange engine activity?

I finally managed to get my Cougar home. It's a 1987 Mercury Cougar XR7, factory 5.0 SO and all that jazz. The engine was pulled and replaced with a low mileage 5.0 from the same year car. Everything on the engine was replaced, Timing chain, plugs, plug wires, all the gaskets except head gaskets...etc. The only thing that wasn't messed with are the air/fuel electronics on the inkate manifold. Like the IAC, MAP sensor and TPS. All the vacuum lines are attached and the car runs very good....most of the time. However sometimes when I am out driving it will randomly start running rough. Almost like its running lean and almost dies. Then it will stop and continue running perfectly? Not sure what the cause of it is. Hopefully you guys can help me straighten this out. If you need anymore info let me know.

Peace,
Dan W.
87' Mercury Cougar XR-7 5.0/AOD (DD)
85' Mercury Cougar GS 3.8/3-spd (project)

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Reply #1
Try replacing the MAP sensor, it could be going bad...
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Reply #2
Better yet; pull codes so you're not just throwing parts at a problem that has not been diagnosed.
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Reply #3
My Saturn started doing this after I filled up at a rural gas station. The tank was full of water. I drained a half gallon or so out of it...
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Reply #4
Im not too concerned about spending money on it. The car has been sitting for a few years so Im sure all those bits need to be replaced anyway. I'll pick up that MAP sensor tomorrow. BTW I will try to get some pics of her soon too, Thanks.
87' Mercury Cougar XR-7 5.0/AOD (DD)
85' Mercury Cougar GS 3.8/3-spd (project)

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Reply #5
I haven't had a single map sensor go on me yet, at there near $80 new. I would pull codes. Your just gonna waste time and money. Also, what kind of shape are the vacuum lines in?
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #6
Quote from: Haystack;294760
I haven't had a single map sensor go on me yet, at there near $80 new. I would pull codes. Your just gonna waste time and money. Also, what kind of shape are the vacuum lines in?


X2... Never seen a bad MAP sensor...

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Reply #7
i had a bad one once......had a broke motor mount and got on it hard enough to break the nipple off....my hose is connected straight to the engine as i am not running the vacuum tree....
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86 Mustang GT

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Reply #8
As per recommendation I checked all the vacuum lines and they look fine. I also tried disconnecting the MAP sensor, but that made things worse so I don't think its that. Then I tried to pull codes only to find my check engine light doesn't work. Running out of things to try, I unplugged the IAC. After that I took her around town for a bit and she never once bogged down or acted like she was gonna die. Any thoughts on this?
87' Mercury Cougar XR-7 5.0/AOD (DD)
85' Mercury Cougar GS 3.8/3-spd (project)

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Reply #9
Many stored codes will NOT trip the check engine light -- even when it is working as it should. 
Just a suggestion:  Invest in a vacuum gauge.  It'll be a wisely spent $25.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

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Reply #10
Quote from: Dougy_Fresh;294785
got on it hard enough to break the nipple off......



Ummmm.....:burnout:
Mike

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Reply #11
Quote from: Roehm;294800
I unplugged the IAC. After that I took her around town for a bit and she never once bogged down or acted like she was gonna die. Any thoughts on this?



Take the iac off and clean it well with carb cleaner and put a new mounting gasket back on it ?
Mike

 

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Reply #12
http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/OBD_I.html
http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/2digitcodes.html

All you need is a paper clip and a test light, or if your check engine light works, you can do that.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #13
I grabbed a test light before I got home. I'll check it tomorrow and let ya'll know whats up. Thanks
87' Mercury Cougar XR-7 5.0/AOD (DD)
85' Mercury Cougar GS 3.8/3-spd (project)

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Reply #14
were all here to help when it is needed.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com