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Old intake, new motor

September 12, 2009, 07:52:26 PM

I have an 84 t-bird with the 3.8L and I want to do away with all of the electronics and emission stuff and drop in a 302. need to know how much stuff is interchangeable on the 302/5.0 throught out the years. For example: will an intake from a '78 302 bolt on to a '92 5.0L? I'm used to Chevy's where EVERYTHING is interchangeable.

Well, the car was stolen today. So, hopefully it is found soon, but until then I'm stuck. Can't afford another car and didn't have insurance on this one. They must have really needed the parts, because the intake and TB were sitting in the drivers seat. Oh, well.

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Reply #1 – September 13, 2009, 02:36:23 AM

http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/tbi_conversion.html

This link isn't an exact walk through, but gives good points on both. Any non Cleavland intake for a 302 should bolt up fine. I have heard that it is as simple as just unpluging the efi harness at the firewall, but have also heard that you will have to pull all the wires. I would assume unplugging the connector would be the easy and practical way to do it. Also, the 3.8 transmission should bolt to the new motor, but I would upgrade it while you have it out if you plan on driving the car alot.

What 302 are you thinking about? Have you thought about going 351, or a stroker setup? You will need motor mounts for a mustang to make it all work as well as exhaust. Unless you want to keep the small y-pipe with 3 cats.

Not sure.

Reply #2 – September 13, 2009, 04:40:24 AM

Was not sure which year or car to pull the motor from. Figured I'd hunt Craigslist untill I found one for around $100. Eventually it would get dual exhaust, but the stock would work for the time being. Considered the 351, but decided I still wanted ok gas milage. The El Camino is my hot rod, the T-bird just needed a little extra. If I wanted another fast car I'd go buy another Camaro. Eventually the T-bird would have ended up all built up, but that wasn't the plan just yet. But now that it's been stolen, who knows what will happen to it.

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Reply #3 – September 13, 2009, 07:34:27 AM

Quote from: Wolfskin;290967

I have an 84 t-bird with the 3.8L and I want to do away with all of the electronics and emission stuff and drop in a 302. need to know how much stuff is interchangeable on the 302/5.0 throught out the years. For example: will an intake from a '78 302 bolt on to a '92 5.0L? I'm used to Chevy's where EVERYTHING is interchangeable.

Well, the car was stolen today. So, hopefully it is found soon, but until then I'm stuck. Can't afford another car and didn't have insurance on this one. They must have really needed the parts, because the intake and TB were sitting in the drivers seat. Oh, well.

That sucks, sorry to hear about it being stolen. I hope you get it back.
Everything on chevys is not interchangeable. They changed the 350 over the years more than ford changed the 302. Really the only thing ford changed on the 302 was internal and spark plug angle (p-heads). The small block chevy changed alot. The early small blocks didnt have mounting bolt holes in the heads for brakets and the intake had a breather built in it with none it the valve covers. They changed the heads alot over the years. They changed intake design three times. They have early model heads, early model vortec heads, and late model vortec witch none of the intakes interchange.

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Reply #4 – September 13, 2009, 11:47:09 AM

Quote from: Wolfskin;290967

I have an 84 t-bird with the 3.8L and I want to do away with all of the electronics and emission stuff and drop in a 302. need to know how much stuff is interchangeable on the 302/5.0 throught out the years. For example: will an intake from a '78 302 bolt on to a '92 5.0L? I'm used to Chevy's where EVERYTHING is interchangeable.

Well, the car was stolen today. So, hopefully it is found soon, but until then I'm stuck. Can't afford another car and didn't have insurance on this one. They must have really needed the parts, because the intake and TB were sitting in the drivers seat. Oh, well.

How did they steal a car that wasn't running?

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Reply #5 – September 13, 2009, 12:07:51 PM

Quote from: danzajax;291049

How did they steal a car that wasn't running?

Musta looked like this...

Gone in 60 minutes!

Don't worry man, you'll get your car back

you are right about Chevy

Reply #6 – September 13, 2009, 05:06:32 PM

Chevy did make a lot of changes. I guess I never really thought about before. I've owned several camaro's and now an el camino, so I know them pretty well at this point, and it's become stuff I just don't have to think about anymore. Fords are new to me. I bought this one off a friend to help him out, and now have to learn all about them. still don't like the seperate starter solonoid thing or the seperate coil, but it's still a car.

Non runnig theft.

Reply #7 – September 13, 2009, 05:10:22 PM

It looks like they used a winch to drag it up onto a trailed or flatbed wrecker. I was looking as the skid marks left on the pavement this morning. I'm wondering if there might be some shady wrecking yards in the area. If so, it's probably already been crushed and loaded for shipment to the recycling plant.

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Reply #8 – September 13, 2009, 05:15:18 PM

Sheesh! Remind me to stay the hell out of NE! If you find it, or another one, just remember where we are on the web, we'll be happy to show you the ropes on 80's Fords.

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Reply #9 – September 13, 2009, 06:04:53 PM

Quote from: Wolfskin;291076

It looks like they used a winch to drag it up onto a trailed or flatbed wrecker. I was looking as the skid marks left on the pavement this morning. I'm wondering if there might be some shady wrecking yards in the area. If so, it's probably already been crushed and loaded for shipment to the recycling plant.

If it was parked on the street, maybe the city picked it up.
Check the impound lot.

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Reply #10 – September 13, 2009, 06:49:19 PM

Dude. That sounds awfully like the city. Did it have valid plates? Call the impound lot pr0nto. I picked mine up from the city auction.

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Reply #11 – September 13, 2009, 07:04:13 PM

I thought the city would have to post an obnoxious colored sticker on the car for a week or so first...?

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Reply #12 – September 14, 2009, 02:45:21 AM

I had the city try to tow my sisters car out of the driveway when i was visiting one day. They were actually pulled into the driveway with chains on it. I pulled my car right infront of it and asked them what they were doing. They said that the city ordinance says that any running car couldn't be visible from the road. We had the hood up because we were changing the power steering belt, and had to run back to autozone cause they gave us a serpentine, and it was a v.

The guy said he had every right in the world to take it, and that there wasn't anything I could do to stop him. So I got out my check valve stem tool, or whatever its called, I took them out of 5 out of 6 of his tires till he saw what was going on. Then I found where they were located, called them and yelled at them over the phone, then called their competitor located accrossed the street from them, and told them I had a broken down tow truck in my front yard and to come get it.

Same guys that tried to tow my wifes car because we didn't drive it for two days. They put a sticker on it saying that it was inoperable. You should have seen the receptionists face when I waited in line and told her that I wanted someone to come outside and show me how its not driveable.

Wreckers must hate me by now.

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Reply #13 – September 14, 2009, 02:57:32 AM

Things like that make me so angry! And people wonder why everybody else hates the government/police/city/Insert body of power here.

I love what you did to his truck though, did the competitors come get it? Predatory towing is the worst business model ever...

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Reply #14 – September 14, 2009, 09:30:41 AM

Quote from: Haystack;291141

I had the city try to tow my sisters car out of the driveway when i was visiting one day. They were actually pulled into the driveway with chains on it. I pulled my car right infront of it and asked them what they were doing. They said that the city ordinance says that any running car couldn't be visible from the road. We had the hood up because we were changing the power steering belt, and had to run back to autozone cause they gave us a serpentine, and it was a v.

The guy said he had every right in the world to take it, and that there wasn't anything I could do to stop him. So I got out my check valve stem tool, or whatever its called, I took them out of 5 out of 6 of his tires till he saw what was going on. Then I found where they were located, called them and yelled at them over the phone, then called their competitor located accrossed the street from them, and told them I had a broken down tow truck in my front yard and to come get it.

Same guys that tried to tow my wifes car because we didn't drive it for two days. They put a sticker on it saying that it was inoperable. You should have seen the receptionists face when I waited in line and told her that I wanted someone to come outside and show me how its not driveable.

Wreckers must hate me by now.

You live in Utah. I visit Salt Lake/Ogden regularly for work. It's beautiful....but they have some seriously F'ed up laws. I wouldn't be surprised if they had laws allowing them to tow vehicles out of driveways even if they still had the dealer sticker on the window. You probably just looked at city official the wrong way.