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Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Thanks to Bill (protouring442), we worked out a deal on a '88 TC parts car that had all the stuff I "thought" I needed for the rear and T5 swap. 

I was psyched...until I started doing some reading on coolcats this AM about the swap.  Turns out the '88 TC can NOT be used for the T5 swap...the hydro clutch arrangement won't work!  :punchballs:  So now I still have to shop for pedals, all attachment parts, cable, quadrant and the bellhousing!  I needed the bellhousing anyhow but had not expected to need all the other stuff.

In the meantime I'm gonna swap my AOD for another to get the 'bird on the road.  I'll also do the rear swap before winter.

Quick question....did all TC's have rear disc brakes?  I'm gonna swap the prop valve and '93 Cobra MC (is that the preferred one?) also.  The front brakes will stay stock...but I did read about swapping the TC fronts on as well.  Is that are good upgrade?  I have to complete TC rolling parts so I have to stuff needed.

Thanks.
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #1 –
You planning on using a 4cyl T5 behind a 5.0???

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #2 –
If you have access to the TC front brakes,spindles,rotors and calipers,put them on as well when you do the rear end swap.They are bigger than the stock ones by two inches.That makes a difference.The Turbo Coupes with disc rears are the '87/'88 models.Previous years had drums.The '93 Cobra MC is a great one to swap on.I'm doing the brake swap eventually and I'm also going to install a Mustang brake booster so I can use a firewall adjuster for my clutch cable,plus,at nearly 22 years old,a new booster can't hurt.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #3 –
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;286081
You planning on using a 4cyl T5 behind a 5.0???


Yep....at least for the meantime.  It's mainly a toy for the wife to roll around in.  It's won't be raced for a while...at that point I'll ante up for a Richmond or Tremec gear box.

Ford put it behind a turbo 4 banger...how could a stock 5.0 do any real damage unless you really hammer on it?
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #4 –
Somehow I don't see this faring very well...

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Reply #5 –
Quote from: 86XR7project;286101
Somehow I don't see this faring very well...


Some fellas feel very confident in their 7.5" rears behind a 5.0.  Back when I was running 2.9L Rangers (with five speeds) I managed to thrash more than one 7.5 into oblivion.  The tranny was fine.

I'm not talking trash on anyone that posts on this thread (already or in the future)...but if you're gonna post a comment like that quoted above...please elaborate.  Smart comments help no one.  I'm here to seek info (I've banged the search function into submission), ask questions when I need help....and in return, help when I can.
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #6 –
when I swapped my TC from ABS to power brakes I used a master cylinder from an SVO mustang and all has been well.

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #7 –
The torque ratings on the 4cyl tranny are less than the v8 boxes and the gear ratios are rather deep... You'll need a Probe pilot for something like a '89 or so...

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #8 –
The 4 cyl T5 will probably last alright behind a 5.0, but the ratios are way off. I had to start mine out in 2nd most of the time and burned the clutch in <10,000 miles. Now I have a '93 Cobra trans and the ratios are a lot better.
Matt
1984 Thunderbird - 89 302 HO, GT40 heads w/ Trick Flow springs, E303 cam, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and 600 cfm 4bbl, Mustang headers, Jegs o/r H pipe, Dynomax lers, Mustang AOD and shifter, Mustang 8.8 w/ 3.73s, 3G alternator, Mustang front and rear sway bars, KYB SN-95 front struts and shocks, and 11" front brakes.

1988 Mustang GT - GT40 heads, Explorer intake, 70mm throttle body, 70mm MAF, Crane 1.7 rrs, E303 cam, Kirban Kwik shifter w/ Pro 5.0 deluxe handle, aluminum clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster, o/r h pipe, Dynomax lers, 3G alternator, aluminum radiator, and 3.27 gears.
 
1986 Cougar 5.0, 1989 Mark VII LSC 5 speed, 1980 Mercury Zephyr 4 door (sold)

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;286110
The torque ratings on the 4cyl tranny are less than the v8 boxes and the gear ratios are rather deep... You'll need a Probe pilot for something like a '89 or so...


Now...that helps.  Thanks.

I'll likely just swap another AOD for now...I have a line on one from a local Ford guy.  The T5 swap will have to wait.

The brakes however...that will happen much sooner than later.
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #10 –
Sorry to hijack(kinda).
I have always wondered why the hydro parts could not be used behind the regular 5.0L T5????
I have pondered trying to swap in all the TC hydraulic components yet use the 5.0L clutch and 5.0L T5.
What are the reasons it would not or could not work or with some modification?????
Could you not use the pedals,master,slave,lines,bellhousing,possibly the fork with the 5.0L t5???
I have always hated the feel of non hydraulic clutches and if was ever to swap to a manual it would have to be hydraulic.
Does anyone have actual experience in trying to piece together this setup, or is it like the keeping abs and swapping to sn95 components myth(which no one had done and i found to work perfectly)????

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Reply #11 –
Quote from: dominator;286116

Could you not use the pedals,master,slave,lines,bellhousing,possibly the fork with the 5.0L t5???


bell housing pattern doesnt match from a 2.3T to 5.0
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

Got all my T5 swap parts....but...

Reply #12 –
Hmmm that's interesting,how far off is it????
Could it be modified or is it just to off???

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Reply #13 –
I'm still using the original master cylinder, with disc TC rear, works fine.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #14 –
I had a 7.5 from an '86 Turbo Coupe in my other Bird.Drove it for years and beat the living  out of it,and it never gave me a single issue.It had 3.45 gears,which weren't bad at all.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..