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  It was said that I don't take it seriously, I tried to prove otherwise, that's all.

The point is simple: there is the truth, and there are lies. There is information, and there is deliberate misinformation. There are facts, and there are distortions of reality.

And if you don’t know the difference between them, that’s a shame. But that doesn’t mean that the sane, intelligent, fact-seekers among us are responsible for your idiocy – its existence, its perpetration, its promotion, or its consequences.

If you are reading this on a computer, you have access to the truth. Use it. If you’re a computer dummy who doesn’t know how to search out real information, ask someone to assist you. It’s that simple – so stop being simple-minded and get with the program.

If you honestly believe that someone like Rush Limbaugh is a straight-shooter who wouldn’t lie to you, do some research into his background. Then ask yourself if a drug-addled bigot who makes his living riling up hate and discord might not have a financial agenda in roping-in gullible people like you and keeping them as part of his “audience share” – the numbers upon which his income is based.

The same goes for Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, and the rest of their ilk. These people aren’t stupid – they make their living by spewing complete and utter bullshiznit, knowing that people like you ARE too stupid to question it, no matter how incredibly ridiculous it is.

If you truly believe that Obama’s healthcare reform program includes talking your grandmother into being euthanized – or any of the other  you’ve been hearing – you are an idiot, plain and simple. The facts about what is being proposed are out there, readily available. If you can’t be bothered to avail yourself of those facts, then shut up and allow those who can be bothered to inform themselves do the talking. We already have more than enough morons speaking out from a position of complete ignorance – you needn’t add to their numbers.

If you sincerely accept that someone like Orly Taitz, who can’t put a sentence together without making a public fool of herself, knows what she’s talking about, you are as much of a fool as she is – maybe more so.

If you believe that Sarah Palin’s ramblings – along with her hypocrisy, her questionable ethics, her complete inability to speak coherently or advisedly on every subject from how government operates to foreign affairs – qualify her as a leader of this nation or any other, you are just plain delusional.

The greatest threat to this country right now is the stupidity of people like you. In today’s technological world, there is no excuse for not being well-informed by reliable sources – not the gibberish you swallow from alleged “news organizations” that fill your head with nonsense because you are too lazy, or just too dumb, to allow a fact into your brainless head.

We all have our opinion as to whether the interests of our nation are best served by Democrats or Republicans, progressives or conservatives, far-leftists, far-rightists, centrists – or any combination of the above.

But on the topic of who can contribute the most to the serving the best interests of all citizens, there is one truth that is, on its face, self-evident: those of you who live in self-imposed ignorance, or hold onto your stupidity as though it was something to be proud of, are completely, unequivocally, and undeniably useless.

Abject Stupidity – we may never wipe it out in our lifetime. But if people like YOU can’t be bothered to get a brain, you can at least understand why the rest of us can’t be bothered to listen to a pointless word you say.

Are we elitists? You betcha! (Couldn’t resist translating that last comment into Palinese in an attempt to be understood by the intellectually impaired). We who seek out the real information behind proposed legislation and what it means are - you'll forgive me or not - bored to tears by those of you who can't conjure up the necessary energy to know what it is you're talking about BEFORE opening your big, fat mouths.

Debate the informed among us on the facts of an issue, and we’re all ears. We may not agree with you, but we are willing to engage in honest discussion.

But if all you are capable of is parroting the talking points spewed BY the ignorant FOR the ignorant, you will find that we who can actually THINK have better things to do than listen.

Got that? Good. It’s about time you finally got something.

It's a start.

I read this rant today which perfectly to a "T" describes why I will never debate people who get their news from corporate media      s:

I would be really surprised if the disclaimer on the CARS site wasn't a product of the Dept of Homeland Security, and is likely buried somewhere on every gov website. You know, that same Dept of Homeland Security, the one trampling all over civil rights and liberties of US citizens daily.

The CARS program is shiznit, and it's going to come around and bite everyone in the ass.

(Don't mistake this for me being anywhere close to conservative in my political leanings...very far from it.  A bad idea is a bad idea, no matter where it comes from)

This thread has already gotten far more political than we generally allow on this forum, but what the hell, I'll throw some gas on the fire before it gets really ugly and inevitably closed. Time to push this thing off a cliff:

I would be really surprised if the disclaimer on the CARS site wasn't a product of the Dept of Homeland Security, and is likely buried somewhere on every gov website. You know, that same Dept of Homeland Security, the one trampling all over civil rights and liberties of US citizens daily, that is a Bush legacy. I don't know what's more deplorable: The Republicans' very active and very blatant (and very sadly, apparently successful) attempts at dividing the country, or the fact that many people are falling for the propaganda, and in turn spreading it themselves with no regard whatsoever as to its truthfulness (the ignorant, factless statements being made all over the place about C4C, such as what happens to the car when it's turned in, and people claiming you have to pay taxes on the grants are but two examples out of about eleventy billion). It's almost like the Republicans are gunning for civil war and are using any stupid old thing they can come up with to try to start it, including something that is likely very much a product of their own policies (the cars.gov disclaimer), and other things that are definitely  products of their own policies (the shiznitty economy, the auto bailout, which was a legacy of Bush, the even bigger banking bailout, which was another legacy of Bush, etc), not to mention things with no basis in truth whatsoever (Obama's birth) but they've grabbed it and run with it simply because it's another wedge to divide the nation. It took Bush 8 years to wreck the economy, yet Republicans are turning on the propaganda machine against Obama because he couldn't turn it around in less than 200 days? Bush gave away three quarters of a trillion dollars to the banks with no strings attached, yet the Republicans are gleefully watching Obama twist in the wind while trying to come up with ways to pay for it? They're resisting everything Obama tries to do, throwing up every roadblock they can, then very publicly chastising him for not doing it?

Republicans can cry about Obama all they want, but it is the Republicans that are driving your country into the shiznitter with their hypocrisy, underhanded tactics, propaganda, etc. Divide and conquer, that is their goal.

And don't mistake me for some left-leaning loon, either. I am no liberal. I believe in capital punishment, I believe in stricter sentences for criminals, I am against governments supporting private businesses and I own and use guns (hunting rifles, anyway). I drive a big, polluting V8 T-Bird with no catalytic converters. I resent every nickel that goes to the taxman, especially when I see those nickels being wasted on the aforementioned corporate bailouts, or even worse, supporting a lazy bum of a woman whose sole means of earning a living is to keep herself constantly knocked up so she can stay on welfare indefinitely.

I'm no right wing nut job either. Being Canadian, and having experienced firsthand that just about all of the propaganda spread by US conservatives about public health care are untrue and the few tidbits that have some truth to them are far outweighed by the benefits, I fully support it. I also believe that the state should not be legislating morals, and that everyone should be given the same rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (and this includes gay marriage, immigration, freedom from religious persecution, etc). I think that corporate lobbying should be outlawed, as it is nothing more than legalized bribery (just as gov't should not be running private industry, private industry should not be running the government). And while I do not think the government should be paying for private business, I do believe they should be regulating it. Not excessively regulated, of course, but regulated just enough to keep it honest, both to shareholders and to the public (the lack of which being what got the economy to the point it is today).

Now, let's see how long it is before the insults start flying and the thread is locked (which will show, once and for all, why we cannot allow political discussions on this forum).