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Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Quick question:

By 1992, was Ford using an electronic control for the AOD in the Mark VII LSC, or did they still use the TV cable? If they still used the TV cable, did they still have a propensity to fall apart at the throttle body and cause erratic shifting?
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Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #1 –
According to Mitchell ONDemand it's the AOD, not the AOD-E. Not surprising, I suppose, since the car also had speed density and an externally regulated alternator...
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1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #2 –
My engine came from a '91 LSC and it had the brass bushing and steel clip on the TV Cable. I suspect Ford had corrected the issue by then.
1988 Thunderbird
306 HO w/ A9P processor
AOD w/ Transgo Reprogrammer
Full Digital Dash w/ twin Cyberdyne A-pillar gauges 
245/50/16 Tires on Snowflakes
Engine swap - CA smog compliant

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #3 –
Or the massive recall that affected almost every RWD ford had something to do with it.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #4 –
It may have had a nylon bushing instead of the rubber one by '92, but they still failed sometimes. The bronze bushing and clip is available from Ford new for < 5.00 so always replace it because the trans will burn up within a few miles without the cable connected.
Matt
1984 Thunderbird - 89 302 HO, GT40 heads w/ Trick Flow springs, E303 cam, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and 600 cfm 4bbl, Mustang headers, Jegs o/r H pipe, Dynomax lers, Mustang AOD and shifter, Mustang 8.8 w/ 3.73s, 3G alternator, Mustang front and rear sway bars, KYB SN-95 front struts and shocks, and 11" front brakes.

1988 Mustang GT - GT40 heads, Explorer intake, 70mm throttle body, 70mm MAF, Crane 1.7 rrs, E303 cam, Kirban Kwik shifter w/ Pro 5.0 deluxe handle, aluminum clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster, o/r h pipe, Dynomax lers, 3G alternator, aluminum radiator, and 3.27 gears.
 
1986 Cougar 5.0, 1989 Mark VII LSC 5 speed, 1980 Mercury Zephyr 4 door (sold)

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #5 –
My '92 Grand Marquis had the plastic bushing, fell apart when I was checking it's condition... Replaced it with the brass one...

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Haystack;263705
Or the massive recall that affected almost every RWD ford had something to do with it.


Yeah, but a recall doesn't mean every RWD Ford had that recall service performed.



Thanks for the information, folks.
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Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #7 –
So I went and looked an a '92 LSC SE, which is a car I have always wanted. Not just the LSC, but the LSC SE. This one has the dark metallic red monochromatic paint scheme with a white interior. It has the charcoal BBS wheels with one missing centercap.
It has every possible option, 105k miles, inspected, runs and drives well (I was told).
The frame looks great with only minimal rust in the strut towers. While the trunklid and one front fender need some minor rust repair, the quarters and door bottoms looked mint. The interior is very rough.
I looked it over from stem to stern and saw no evidence of an accident.
They're selling it because it suddenly lost overdrive and they parked it for fear of causing further damage. It needs some new power steering lines to be safe for driving.
While looking it over, I confirmed what I had suspected: the TV cable was no longer attached to the TB linkage. I did not point this out to the owner. Would this keep the AOD from engaging overdrive?

They're asking a flexible $1,500. Thoughts?
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Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #8 –
Did you look at the condition of the transmission fluid??? 49 times out of 50, the transmission is already screwed when they notice it won't shift...

If the tranny is bad, $1500 is at least double what I'd even consider a good price...

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #9 –
I forgot to check the transmission fluid.

I can always go back and see it again.
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Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #10 –
A Mark VII is one of the few cars I'd give up my T-Bird for. They're hard as hell to find around here, and IMO are one of the best looking Fox cars ever built. The're kind of like a better looking T-Bird with all of the popular swaps already done (HO, 5-lug, 8.8" rear, floor shift, etc).

That being said, I don't know if I'd part with $1500 for one with a potentially bad tranny, trashed interior, and leaking PS lines. Mind, these are also things you could use to bargain the price down. Even if the tranny is fvcked it's only a few hours to replace an AOD, or if you were feeling especially frisky, a few more to swap a T5 into. That interior thing, though... that would break my heart. It's not like you can just find white leather LSC/SE seats at the local pick and pull...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #11 –
If it's red w/ white interior then it's an elusive Fire and Ice Mark VII. That color combo is rare. Dk green and white interior is also.

I would be betting that the trans is in need of a rebuild.

What you need to do is get them to let you test drive it, and limp into a parking lot nearby and hook the TV cable back up to see what happens.

I gave 475 for mine with a bad trans and a trashed interior, and I was able to swap in a T5 for less than it cost to rebuild the AOD.
Matt
1984 Thunderbird - 89 302 HO, GT40 heads w/ Trick Flow springs, E303 cam, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and 600 cfm 4bbl, Mustang headers, Jegs o/r H pipe, Dynomax lers, Mustang AOD and shifter, Mustang 8.8 w/ 3.73s, 3G alternator, Mustang front and rear sway bars, KYB SN-95 front struts and shocks, and 11" front brakes.

1988 Mustang GT - GT40 heads, Explorer intake, 70mm throttle body, 70mm MAF, Crane 1.7 rrs, E303 cam, Kirban Kwik shifter w/ Pro 5.0 deluxe handle, aluminum clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster, o/r h pipe, Dynomax lers, 3G alternator, aluminum radiator, and 3.27 gears.
 
1986 Cougar 5.0, 1989 Mark VII LSC 5 speed, 1980 Mercury Zephyr 4 door (sold)

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #12 –
The T5 swap would be far more likely than an AOD rebuild.

It is a shame about the interior. The door panels are loose and stained, the seats are a 5 out of 10, the rear seat has mud and rust on the white leather (hauling junkyard parts?), and the headliner is totally destroyed. I don't think the moonroof leaks, though.

You can just barely see the white interior in the attached picture.
Would a $500 offer be an insult? This guy seems like he won't budge out of the four figure range.
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Reply #13 –
Quote from: cougarcragar;264211
Would a $500 offer be an insult? This guy seems like he won't budge out of the four figure range.

I suspect he'll have it a loooong time then... A car like that wouldn't bring more than $300-$400 at auction around here... And if it has some rust, probably not that much... I bought a rusty '86 at auction back in '98(source of my 5.0), for $200 and it ran and drove...

Make him a offer and leave your number...

I went to look at a '77 305 Monza some years ago the guy wanted $1500 for... Was a nice little car with only 51K mi, a fresh transmission, and paint, but had a leaking heater core... I decided not to buy it, but was thinking I'll offer $900 to see what he does... Just before I made the offer, he blurts out "I'll not sell it for less than $750"... Yep bought me a Monza...

Need Information - '92 Mark VII LSC

Reply #14 –
I'd say that car has air bag issues, too, judging by how low it sits. I'd try $500 on him. Worst he can do is say no...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣